Cyborg only matches

[Verin]

I have recently starting trying to host these, new players are skeptical rather its a good idea, but quickly change their minds after a match. I'ts a great twist on the game really, it puts everyone on a level playing field when it comes to researching, no one knows the best way.

Pros:
Change of play style
A different challenge
No more thousand tank unstoppable armies
Research is more challenging and less straight forward.

Cons:
Players are skeptical at first, and may not join the server.
Cpu's have a problem identifying the lack of tanks, they do not produce anymore cyborgs than if they did with tanks on.

[TVR]

Not enough flamer cyborgs ... Construct additional flamer cyborgs

[Dalton]

Limiting tanks and VTOL messes the balance it would be super easy to turtle with the only threat being borgs, just a couple cannon forts and your basically safe then it will just be an artillery battle...

[Saberuneko]

That's true, that kind of limitations are just a mess...

[Zarel]

I bet MG borgs stand a decent chance against flamers, if you micro them correctly.

[Dalton]

Yes they do, if you control them right you can do it with out ever getting hit and just knock them off.

[Verin]

I have not encountered any problems yet, to defend against that many cyborgs your going to need more than just cannons. Most games end before super cyborgs are even researched. It's a different playstyle, base defenses are pretty much useless unless they are high fire rate. Even then you still need A lot of them, these are usually hosted on mero river or NTW. I am up to server 7

[Zarel]

Are you sure? I'd imagine MGs would be hella useful.

[Dalton]

150 Cyborg vs Small Defense ...as I said unbalanced with just cyborgs!

[JDW]

150 Cyborg vs Small Defense ...as I said unbalanced with just cyborgs!

That was brutal man !

[kringled]

150 Cyborg vs Small Defense ...as I said unbalanced with just cyborgs!

Impressive. Any sense for how that would play out with Needle gunners rather than Scourges? (Cheaper, tougher, and as all rounders, a bit better against structures).

Keith

[Dalton]

Ya, needle and assault gun are pretty good on structures might see how it goes.

[Zarel]

If you're going mid-T3, you should be using Hellstorms, HL's, and Plasma Cannons.

[Dalton]

Limiting tanks and VTOL messes the balance it would be super easy to turtle with the only threat being borgs, just a couple cannon forts and your basically safe then it will just be an artillery battle...

Point

[Verin]

9 servers so far, still no lame games yet Artillery does tear cyborgs apart, but the volume of them would take down the defences to 0 if not very low before ( or even if) the cyborgs are destroyed.

You guys can say whatever you want, from the 9 games ive played it seems to reward the team that can combine thier forces and move together in one attack. Usually a combo of mg and grenadiers do well, the flamers are not as effective as you thing they would be.

Im still debating whether or not to enable VTOL-but make it limited, 1 factory, no pads