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Re: What this game needs to be GREAT!

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About the LAN Lobby, how about integration with Bonjour? Its partially open source (mDNSResponder) and does exactly what is necessary to host an easily discoverable LAN game along with an equally intuitive LAN lobby that can find locally broadcasted games. Plus it's available for Mac OS X, Windows 32/64bit and Linux. Also any computer with an Apple product installed probably already has Bonjour installed as well and many other programs use it, such as Adobe Creative Suite, Skype and Pidgin. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

http://developer.apple.com/networking/b ... index.html
http://developer.apple.com/opensource/i ... njour.html
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I like that idea a LOT (for obvious reasons)

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Pidgin only supports it as an IM protocol. I don't see Warzone gaining much using Bonjour instead of a generic network discovery model.
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Zarel wrote:Pidgin only supports it as an IM protocol. I don't see Warzone gaining much using Bonjour instead of a generic network discovery model.
Suggested it to avoid getting the usual developer's "it would be too much work" response lol. I said Bonjour because its already been created so its just a matter of implementation vs recreation of the wheel so to speak.

Also the fact that Pidgin supports it hints at the fact that Linux might have it also preinstalled (or at least bundled with Pidgin)
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Its partially open source
That would make it partially unacceptable. We aren't going to use something we have to license from Apple.
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stiv wrote:
Its partially open source
That would make it partially unacceptable. We aren't going to use something we have to license from Apple.
I was referring to the open source end, Bonjour itself is simply an interface/ set of APIs for the main workhorse in this case mDNS and mDNSResponder

http://avahi.org/
Avahi is a linux project that uses mDNS and mDNSResponder to do the same thing that Bonjour does based on the same open source backend. Clearly Bonjour itself isn't necessary if the backend has all the functions necessary, I just pointed it out as Bonjour to prove the availability of it on several systems and the fact that deployment is not needed in most cases.
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Kih-ap-hiih wrote:Hi, its my first post, I know, but not know my IP too.
To find your IP address you could go to start, run, then type in "cmd" (with out quotes) and press enter. When the command prompt comes up type in "ipconfig" (again no quotes) and hit enter. Where it says IP Address. . . . : (whatever number is here) thats your IP
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This is my first post too, and if I can I want to make some suggestions.
Is it possible convert de Rate of Fire to seconds or miliseconds, something decrease with research istead to increase. I mean, it will be more easy to understand the time between the shot, to compare the weapons.
And just something that I dont know it matter, but the subtittle is late in the animations, even of the English subtittle are late. If it's possible to solve this the game is perfect to me.
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I have looked better the guide and I discovered that the number in rate of fire is how many shot it give per minute.
Sorry about asked.
And I have played the NTW mod and the new tecnologies and new pre-requisites for the bodies are very great, but some of the new technogies doesn't have explanation even in the site, I'd like if the developer of the mod could put the explanations in the mod, would make it perfect.
And for developers of the game if you could put the same bodies pre-requisites and the scavengers bodies at start, and some of the new tecnologies (like nuclear reator) in the game (not in campaing, in vs com) would make the game perfect.
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AntonioBR wrote:And I have played the NTW mod and the new tecnologies and new pre-requisites for the bodies are very great, but some of the new technogies doesn't have explanation even in the site, I'd like if the developer of the mod could put the explanations in the mod, would make it perfect.
ntw mod homepage, comming in a few month.
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Here are my $0.05 on the LAN functionality :)

TechWiz is correct, mDNS (aka bonjour, avahi) could be used to provide a local network lobby. This would be a great addition for LAN parties etc. This way the LAN game setup could be replaced with a lobby that performs a mDNS query to find game hosts on the LAN. Look at this output from avahi-browse:

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noccy@noccy-laptop:~$ avahi-browse -al
+ wlan2 IPv4 noccy@noccy-desktop: Simultaneous output to Internal Audio a*** PulseAudio Sound Sink local
+ wlan2 IPv4 noccy@noccy-desktop: Internal Audio Analog Stereo PulseAudio Sound Sink local
+ wlan2 IPv4 XBMC Event Server@noccy-desktop               _xbmc-events._udp    local
+ wlan2 IPv4 noccy-desktop [xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx]             Workstation          local
+ wlan2 IPv4 noccy@noccy-desktop: Internal Audio Analog Stereo PulseAudio Sound Source local
+ wlan2 IPv4 noccy@noccy-desktop                           PulseAudio Sound Server local
Imagine the host publishing a new service over mDNS, say "_wz2100-host._udp.local". What's being passed around is simply nothing but DNS SRV records pointing to a host and a port. That way players updating the lobby could simply perform a browse query and all the games on the LAN would show up. No need to specify IP adresses etc. Actually, this could be implemented in the main lobby -- local games could show up at the top with an icon indicating its a LAN game :)

On a sidenote, Rhythmbox (and iTunes) both use mDNS to allow your music collection to appear on the network and to make it available to other media players, such as on my netbook.

Hope this makes sense :)


Edit: Avahi is quite well documented at http://avahi.org. Example code for browsing services as well as publishing services is available, in good ol' C :)
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as someone stated earlier, i would love it if the interface could be larger relative to screen size, i've been playing wz in 1680x1050 lately and the notification text is almost squint worthy to even read, and the bottom left box is very small aswell.
:D
also, could you design some kind of hierarchy for repair turrets and who they try to repair? i always see them run past my almost dead units to go zap up some *almost* perfectly fine unit who was 10 times further away than the almost-broken unit anyways, and that really bugs me. :annoyed:

Im sure someone already brought this up, but it would be very nice if you could make the camera able to zoom out alot further.. and commanders are kind of useless, perhaps make some early research in mp/skirm to give them a very slow healing aura for only units under them and/or make their *commander gun thing* do actual damage... just suggestions, but would be nice imo! :lol2:
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Nave wrote:as someone stated earlier, i would love it if the interface could be larger relative to screen size, i've been playing wz in 1680x1050 lately and the notification text is almost squint worthy to even read, and the bottom left box is very small aswell. :D
You are in luck my friend, for only $49.99 I can sell you a wz2100 bonus pack including a pair of refurbished binoculars :D

Okay, seriously now lol what size display have you got? I'm running warzone in 1280x1024 on a 19" display and I think that's still on the usable side of the thin line. The only issue I have with the game at that resolution is that there is a lot of "wasted space" that could f.ex. be used to display additional trucks or factories. Also, the mouse wheel has no effect on any of the user interface panels, which *can* be considered a problem for some as the buttons to change pages are dangerously tiny. Hopefully this is something that the new interface will sort out :)

Actually, for the wish list I would just love to have improved tooltip and better information in game, especially when researching stuff. Sure, I spend a lot of time digging around the guides here to find information on some of the more arcane structures and weapons, but it would be excellent to have some basic information on the available research in game.

Also, as for documentation and manuals, I haven't been able to find a reference for the research icons anywhere on this site. Is there such a reference available? :)
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Old thread I know but what is the progress on the LAN implementation? Any hope or should I just try and fail myself? lol
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TechWiz wrote:Old thread I know but what is the progress on the LAN implementation? Any hope or should I just try and fail myself? lol
I suggest you try it yourself.