where is the music?

[Chojun]

Yep, just because we didn't have the source doesn't mean we were dormant for 5 years..

[DevUrandom]

Chojun: I never said that, did I?

Where can I find the other "add-on content"? Maybe you still have them around... It's possible that it would be of use to us or someone else.

lav_coyote24: I just recognized that the maps are packed in WDG... Do you still have the unpacked originals?

[Rman Virgil]

Where can I find the other "add-on content"? Maybe you still have them around... It's possible that it would be of use to us or someone else.

* I'm pretty sure between me & Lav we have most of the maps & ALL the seminal  Mods, A .I.s, etc. created from '99 - '04..

* It's also quite possible that the warzone.de crew has much of it as well.... at least they used to years ago.

- RV

[EvilGuru]

I don't know what you've been told but there IS a substantial body of very high quality add-on content to WZ 2100 that cannot presently be played with the WRP ver. but runs perfectly under v.1.10.

This is good news. I doubt anything will be too badly broken so I guess the only real challenge is getting all of the various mods together, tweaking them slightly and making a database of them.

Regards, Freddie.

[Rman Virgil]

--------->

* I saw your guys concerns in the IRC Logs 'bout the license wording for all these maps, mods, Ai's, assoc with NEWST.

* I was in the legal profession for over a decade so I understand.

* Whatever wording works best for the WRP I'll sign-off on.

* Let me just tell you what my concerns are by useing a concrete example that I was co-creator of.

* The example is "Citadel Elite"...(CE)

* "CE" was/is many things:

* 1.) An original map

* 2.) Custom Tile Set

* 3.) Custom / New GFX (inc anims)

* 4.) New Units (ie. Dual Heavy Canon, RJ-Flying Trucks, etc.

* 5.) New Weaps

* 6.) Altered Stats

* 7.) A Custom A.I.

* 8.) A .pdf Scenario

* K..... make it so that it can run under the WRP as it does under v.1.10 (GPM-wise) and acknowledge its creators.

* If anybody wants to modify "CE's" GPMs  they can but they have to call-it something else & acknowledge the derivation.

* Any of the original components to "CE" can be reused in other works.... just acknowledge the usage. (Actually this has been done extensively since "CE" was released.....that is, many of it's components have been reused in other Maps & Mods.... mostly, not acknowleded but we didn't make a big deal about it.... that the work was valued enough to inspire other works was kwel & good enough for us).

* That's all I can think of right now. If you have any other concerns or need further clarifications just let us know. We want to facilitate, make it work for the benefit of those who would like additional WZ Toys to play with than they have at present.

- Regards, RV

[EvilGuru]

That sounds fantastic. Just give my brain a couple of hours to recover from that legal discussion (they really do my head in).

Regards, Freddie.

[DevUrandom]

Sorry...

I misinterpreted that you didn't want any derivates.
Nice that I was wrong.
I'll then use CC BY-SA 3.0 for anything NEWST I find.

[Kayiaxo]

Actually it was more like no-one using mp3s (there was a vote), no-one complaining about a removal, libmad being a bit touchy when compiling and the simplified code, that lead to the removal of mp3 support for 2.1...

I'm not able to find the topic where I discussed it, but I was agains't support removal of .mp3 music.
It's a pain to convert to .ogg, there is some small quality loss going from .mp3 to .ogg and .ogg isn't supported by most mp3 players so people don't have music in that format most of the time.

[doom3r]

Is NEWST kind of pumpkin_studios v2??

[lav_coyote25]

NEWST was the original warzone 2100 community beginings... the history of which i cant remember right off hand...

then it went to pumpkin2... and then... others...

[kage]

at least as i followed it (joining newst near its final days), newst -> pumpkin-2 -> realtimestrategies.net ("rts.net") -> wz2100.net

as soon as one was created, the previous one lived on by a thread before dying off, and more or less, through each of these migrations, the community has stayed fairly contiguous, losing some members, and gaining others.  the exception, some might argue, is that rts.net is still alive and distinct as a modder community, while wz2100.net is a developer community (though rts.net has only had one post that i can see in the last 2 months, and the only user online when i was there was one guest, which was me).

and of course, i'm sure there were many other sites that people frequented, but i haven't heard of any as large as those in this lineage.

[Chojun]

Yep, just because we didn't have the source doesn't mean we were dormant for 5 years..

Chojun: I never said that, did I?

DevUrandom, do you need a hug?

[DevUrandom]

DevUrandom, do you need a hug?

Yes, please.

[lav_coyote25]

ahhh... the spirit of the christmas / holiday  season... melts the ol heart it does.... ;D

[Chojun]