remake lasers and plasma cannons and gauss cannons

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remake lasers and plasma cannons and gauss cannons

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hello,
I think the lasers hav a too short range, while plasma cannons and gauss cannons have a too long range. In real life, lasers have an infinite range (unless it gets difracted/diluded by fog smoke or it hits an object), while plasma cannons are not really light, they are more electric energy (i think, correct me if i am wrong), so i think we should make the gauss and plasma cannons shorter by range, and lasers with a longer range.
wut u think?
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Re: remake lasers and plasma cannons and gauss cannons

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dannystrube wrote:hello,
I think the lasers hav a too short range, while plasma cannons and gauss cannons have a too long range. In real life, lasers have an infinite range (unless it gets difracted/diluded by fog smoke or it hits an object), while plasma cannons are not really light, they are more electric energy (i think, correct me if i am wrong), so i think we should make the gauss and plasma cannons shorter by range, and lasers with a longer range.
wut u think?
Erm, in real life, lasers have a very short range.

Ever tried to point a laser pointer at anything that isn't "nearby"? It doesn't work.

There's two factors at work here. First, Earth has this little thing called an atmosphere. It makes light diffuse over long distances. Guess where Warzone is set. (Hint: Earth.)

Second, light rays in a laser aren't perfectly parallel - there's no such thing as "perfect" anything in the real world - they're just really close. Over long distances, a laser beam will spread out and become less effective.

Furthermore, the plasma cannon is one of the shortest ranged weapons in Warzone. Are you sure you're talking about the right thing? o_O (Also, plasma is pretty much unrelated to electricity.)

Gauss cannons are fine as they are. They have really long range in real life, just like in Warzone.
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Re: remake lasers and plasma cannons and gauss cannons

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Erm, in real life, lasers have a very short range.

Ever tried to point a laser pointer at anything that isn't "nearby"? It doesn't work.
ahem, in real life lasers have an infinite range, and a laser pointer arent real laser, they are just intensified flashlights, real lasers like the army wants to create for sniper rifles (there are actual researches going on for that) are a billion times more powerful, making them shoot super far
Furthermore, the plasma cannon is one of the shortest ranged weapons in Warzone. Are you sure you're talking about the right thing? o_O (Also, plasma is pretty much unrelated to electricity.)
when i play my games the plasma turret emplacement shoots and sees enemies further away than my heavy lasers and flashlight emplacements, so yeah, in my games lasers suck
There's two factors at work here. First, Earth has this little thing called an atmosphere. It makes light diffuse over long distances. Guess where Warzone is set. (Hint: Earth.)
if the laser is intensified enough that won't matter much, anyway, i am not saying to make lasers shoot across the entire map, i am saying to make them shoot A LITTLE further, like the range of a morta pit or sumthing, but to balance it giving them more reaload times

if u dont believe me, read wikipedia, they have loads of info bout lasers and their current development, and google also helps...
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dannystrube wrote:ahem, in real life lasers have an infinite range, and a laser pointer arent real laser, they are just intensified flashlights, real lasers like the army wants to create for sniper rifles (there are actual researches going on for that) are a billion times more powerful, making them shoot super far
I don't think you understand what the word "real" means, nor what the word "laser" means. Hint: A laser pointer is a real laser.

Regardless, lasers do not have infinite range. Some lasers have long range, some lasers don't. Warzone's lasers have medium-long range. What else is there to say about that?
dannystrube wrote:when i play my games the plasma turret emplacement shoots and sees enemies further away than my heavy lasers and flashlight emplacements, so yeah, in my games lasers suck
You mean the Nexus Plasma Mortar? i.e. the emplacement you can only get by either cheating, or using a mod?

If you're cheating: Of course a cheat weapon is overpowered. That's why you have to cheat to get it.

If you're using a mod: Tell that to whoever made your mod, not us.
dannystrube wrote:if the laser is intensified enough that won't matter much, anyway, i am not saying to make lasers shoot across the entire map, i am saying to make them shoot A LITTLE further, like the range of a morta pit or sumthing, but to balance it giving them more reaload times
Warzone lasers aren't "intensified enough", then.
dannystrube wrote:if u dont believe me, read wikipedia, they have loads of info bout lasers and their current development, and google also helps...
You'll have to be less vague than "Wikipedia" and "Google".

Again, there are many different types of lasers. The type you're thinking of probably aren't the type used in Warzone.
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Re: remake lasers and plasma cannons and gauss cannons

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Giving a direct-fire weapon the range of an artillery weapon essentially makes artillery defunct. Plus, you are aware that lasers have more range than a good number of other weapons. Plus, in Real Life, and in the Present, rail guns have very long range. You think it's going to get shorter in the future? In fact, rail guns already are sufficiently more advanced than lasers. Plus, in order to make a weapons-grade laser, it won't be weapons-grade for a very long range. The laser range in WZ isn't the range that the laser beam travels, it is the distance the laser beam does damage over.
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