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In all seriousness, people get mad at you only when you try to coach their behavior or correct them uninvited. If you don't want people to get mad at you, don't throw at them a wall of text simply because you think it's the "compassionate" thing to do. Most of the time, people will ask for coaching and correcting when they want it, and otherwise it simply isn't welcome. You're not making the world a better place by typing out long walls of text that are just going to make people angry with you. Live and let live. If we want a therapist, we'll pay a professional.
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Dylan Hsu wrote:In all seriousness, people get mad at you only when you try to coach their behavior or correct them uninvited. If you don't want people to get mad at you, don't throw at them a wall of text simply because you think it's the "compassionate" thing to do. Most of the time, people will ask for coaching and correcting when they want it, and otherwise it simply isn't welcome. You're not making the world a better place by typing out long walls of text that are just going to make people angry with you. Live and let live. If we want a therapist, we'll pay a professional.
Just think about what you just did. Aren't you telling me what to do or not?
I thought we had an agreement on personal critics.

I'm really not into this sh*t again, Dylan, and I hope you really aren't into it as well :?

~Olrox
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Re: About Olrox's lengthy thinking

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Just providing information. You did ask for an opinion, by the way. In any case, you can continue making a fool out of yourself on these forums if you really want to.
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begin :lecture: enuff! thankyou. :annoyed: points of view tend to start wars. state yours and thats it. we all get along. thankyou. / end :lecture:
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Dylan Hsu wrote:(...)you can continue making a fool out of yourself on these forums if you really want to.
You should've posted that in the right place.
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3401&p=57413#p57413
:hmm:

If I'm indeed a fool, then I think that fools are more valuable than you think. If a fool is bold enough to put in motion and coordinate a revolution of the whole game's graphics, and produce results that can please the whole community, I daresay, a fool is very valuable.

What do you think? Do we need a fool like that or not? Choose wisely, because you wouldn't want to make a decision that'll make everyone hate you. Answer quickly so that I can continue all my work or cease it altogether. Let's see if you, with such certain words, can make wise decisions.

You can bump that "Olrox left the game topic" then, if you really want me to leave. Make a poll, afterwards, to see if the community preferred to keep such the stupid fool you seem to think of me. But I'm growing tired of your rants... it's incredible how even a small rock can make a whole train go off the rails.

Choose wisely.

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Forget it, no need to choose. I'm outta here. I hope you can be yourself without interventions now.
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My friend, a Toltec Warrior does not grant an other the power to be a "monkey wrench" in the good works he lives to create, & creates to live, to make a life of honor and grace shared with kith and kin.

And...
"You cannot force the flower."

~ Odysseas Elytis
Regards, RV :hmm:

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Rman Virgil wrote: My friend, a Toltec Warrior does not grant an other the power to be a "monkey wrench" in the good works he lives to create, & creates to live, to make a life of honor and grace shared with kith and kin.
Oh, but I won't stop my journey. I'll just keep away from... things that are making a damn tough stage of my life really worse. I need to grow and I need to start only trying to affect whoever I can look in the eyes. Oh, I don't know a single person who could be blind to the real purpose of my very being, even though I stared deep within the eyes and through the soul and till the truth. I'm just depressed again, or still, and that's terrible. I need to truly get back on my feet so that I can stand firmly with my real purpose of being. Before that I'm just too vulnerable to being taken down by the simplest things... Let's say that I was hanging from a ledge and was climbing it but didn't have the time to get much far from it and got a small, apparently harmless, push.

I'm very young. I can fall as many times as I need to and I'll always come back. Stronger and more experient, that is :)

Every situation in life can be a learning experience, as far as my "lengthy thinking" goes. The harder, more painful, difficult, whatever, the better. But it does take some time, unfortunately.

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Rman Virgil wrote: My friend, a Toltec Warrior does not grant an other the power to be a "monkey wrench" in the good works he lives to create, & creates to live, to make a life of honor and grace shared with kith and kin.
Olrox wrote:Oh, but I won't stop my journey. I'll just keep away from... things that are making a damn tough stage of my life really worse. I need to grow and I need to start only trying to affect whoever I can look in the eyes. Oh, I don't know a single person who could be blind to the real purpose of my very being, even though I stared deep within the eyes and through the soul and till the truth. I'm just depressed again, or still, and that's terrible. I need to truly get back on my feet so that I can stand firmly with my real purpose of being. Before that I'm just too vulnerable to being taken down by the simplest things... Let's say that I was hanging from a ledge and was climbing it but didn't have the time to get much far from it and got a small, apparently harmless, push.

I'm very young. I can fall as many times as I need to and I'll always come back. Stronger and more experient, that is :)

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Be not a stranger. Your person and works are held in high esteem by many, I have no doubt. Green-eyed envy will always rear its ugly head, here & throughout the course of RL, but it is really a puny thing and possesses not the power of Medusa if you abide your truth & fate.

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Olrox, I have to say I'm impressed. Yours is one of the most amazing mindsets I have encountered in my lifetime. Unfortunately a lot of people don't seem to be able to deal with such at all and most of the rest have trouble with it.

Actually I think I'm kinda similar, although I somewhat lack those literary skills to express myself properly. I suppose I can understand how you fare.
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Hello Olrox,

I do believe it's time for my two cents (or two pennys if you want to be technical). I honestly admire your mindset and way of thinking, you remind me of a very good friend of mine of whom I've shared many lengthy conversations on why people do things the way they do, and how they are just not ready for change etcetera etcetera. Helping people is good, and I also am a strong believer in if you believe someone is able to change for the better, then tell them their flaws and let them do the same back. The only way you can learn and expand is from error as I believe you previously said. However, some people simply don't want to change and you must respect that also. People see things from a different angle, and some are set and comfortable with the way they are.
Dylan Hsu wrote:Your narcissistic belief that you are the prime authority on matters of personality and sociability is incorrigible. You're no more special than anybody else on these boards, and nobody asked you to play God, or give us information about mental growth. Your opinion isn't special, and you have no right to criticize my character simply because you disapprove.
I would like to say Dylan that he isn't actually trying to assert some authority on your personality, and that he is not playing God. He is giving suggestions on how to improve. You have the right to decline, ignore and brush away into the nether should you please but making it into a personal issue is another matter.
Olrox wrote:I've spent a month or so after the first days of December, last year, to reflect whether I should stay here or not, and if I'd stay, what would I do. I've chosen to continue trying to help people the best way I can, as often as I can. This proved to be a very ungrateful task and even proved to make some people very mad at me, and that's why I'll stop all that compassion if I can't look the man in the eyes. I've already apologized for being so annoying, trying to express my own mentality, perhaps I should add that to my signature or something (nah, thinking about it, it'd look too hypocritical :P )
Give help where people need help, but don't expect anything back. Don't even expect kind words, and most certainly don't go in expecting to come out having made a difference.

Now I think it's high time this whole thing just stopped. Olrox, you are a long lasting member of the community and I think you should reconsider your decision to leave as you've given useful insight while you've been here, and Dylan Hsu you have also been an active contributor towards the community for a while and I think it's silly how much this has been taken out of proportion especially between two long lasting members. I hope you two can, at least, agree to disagree on this matter.

Phew, Chris.
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not meaning to bump but ahh... are they BOTH gone?!?!?!
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Roux Le Corps: Yes.
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bummer...
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Roux Le Corps wrote:not meaning to bump but ahh... are they BOTH gone?!?!?!
I'm not gone, I've just decided to stay away for a while to think about things all over again. I was also in a difficult period in my technical course, but that's past and I've managed to get approval in all subjects with grades above the average :)

I know it may soun ironic if the line of thinking is short, but I feel sorry for Dylan, I really wished he separated some time to think about things and reach a more developed conclusion about his own behavior, and I've even tried to do what I could to make that happen, even if it's not my duty in any way. I hope that his banning works for making him think about everything again... :|

But anyway, I've decided to come back now, I believe that the tough times are over for now, at least for me, so I'm ready to get back to the community, but... different. To be more brief and represent the necessary information in a more objective way, I'll create another topic here (I hope that this is not a bad thing to do, if it is, I ask that some moderator could be kind enough to merge it here - I hope it's not deemed necessary).

Once again, I forgive for expressing myself in such an overwhelming way, over an internet connection. As I said in a PM to KukY, now I'm convinced I can only do that effectively with an eye-to-eye connection :P

For a better WZ2100 and community is that I try, sorry if I fail,
~Olrox