As a starter i'm not saying that you have to do anything i say in here, but these are ideas that i would like to see.
I would like to see some more superweapons, aside laser satelite strike. I would like to see a EMP missile, that can shut down half of the enemy base or half of the map. (Superweapon) I know it may be overpowered as hell, but it can shut down your units too. So it's more of a tactical use missile to hold enemy forces away for enough time to build up some defences, or use it to simply render enemy defences useless, while cutting through the front line. Also EMP can make Aircraft (VTOL) fall from the sky. And maybe not destroy the aircraft but heavily damage it on fall. That's for a single super weapon. I would like to see a nuke strike too. I do know it created nuclear winter, but by sheer amount energy it produces when nuclear reaction starts, it's a good VMD.
Superweapons aside.
I would like to see a legged propulsion for tanks, like 2-legged and/or quad legged mechs. Something similar to the Mechwarrior and Armored Core and maybe something similar to Gundam (Strangely enough).
Again i don't think it will ever be implemented, i just would like to see something new.
Also regardless of your decision, i just love this game. It's strange that original creators didn't have enough money to continue with this game.
My ideas.
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lav_coyote25
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Re: My ideas.
money had no real bearing on it... was just the circumstances of the time... ie: brining out a jump and grunt (FPS) and wanting to have all their resources available for that. big whoop.JKL998 wrote: It's strange that original creators didn't have enough money to continue with this game.
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Jorzi
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Re: My ideas.
Hi, glad you like the game.
Some of the features (like the nuke) have been implemented in some mods, for example here, but also in the ntw mod. Probably won't be implemented in the base game though, since they would have quite a radical effect on game balance.
There was also a bit of work done on legged propulsions, but one of the main problems with that one is the current animation system, or maybe the lack thereof. AFAIK cyborgs and oil derricks are handled separately in the code, and the animations are done frame by frame
Some of the features (like the nuke) have been implemented in some mods, for example here, but also in the ntw mod. Probably won't be implemented in the base game though, since they would have quite a radical effect on game balance.
There was also a bit of work done on legged propulsions, but one of the main problems with that one is the current animation system, or maybe the lack thereof. AFAIK cyborgs and oil derricks are handled separately in the code, and the animations are done frame by frame
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JKL998
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Re: My ideas.
How is this animation handled? I see that in-game trucks and tanks and such turn their "turret" to needed position and such, so with what is that handled? Thanks for viewing my topic and post.
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Jorzi
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Re: My ideas.
Since the models are made up of body, propulsion and turret, and the turret has a separate model for the "gun barrel" part, it is not very hard to make them rotate or move according to certain parameters. However, the animation I'm talking about is having the vertices of the mesh doing a certain action, like a walk cycle, for example. Right now it is done by having one "level" of the .pie file (essentially a separate model) for each frame of animation.
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Berg
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Re: My ideas.
Pie models have levels and each level can have its orientation changed using a .ani file see derrick for example.
Note the levels each set can be changed in its orientation to the position of the structure,,'
The code to enable each animated model is hard coded I believe but it can be changed with the ani file.
here is the derrik ani file
hope this is helpfull
I did do a study of frame animation a while back and posted a lot of info here viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5311
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The code to enable each animated model is hard coded I believe but it can be changed with the ani file.
here is the derrik ani file
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/* header format: anim3d [filename] [frames][framerate] [num objects] */
/* anim line: [frame] [x] [y] [z] [xrot] [yrot] [zrot][xscale] [yscale] [zscale] */
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}hope this is helpfull
I did do a study of frame animation a while back and posted a lot of info here viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5311