Map-mods

[cybersphinx]

Unfortunately the current implementation also provides unparalleled ability for people not to load savegames with mods.

[effigy]

Unfortunately the current implementation also provides unparalleled ability for people not to load savegames with mods.

#2735 links to #2574 which suggests the save game issue started before the current mapmod support, correct?

Seems we're jumping the gun by removing that support.

[cybersphinx]

I'm not sure what #2574 is about, I couldn't get the 1.10 mod to run in 2.3.7 at all. The problem in 2.3.8 though is definitely the mapmod support, reverting that change makes it work.

[effigy]

oh... hmm...

R.I.P. mapmod support

... you were a dear friend :'-(

[Fastdeath]

No map mods will just don't work when theier broken support gets reverted.

[Iluvalar]

map-mod was making people kicked from other games all the time in 2.3.7 .

In the test i've runned all you need to do is to load the mod as usual before reloading your game in 2.3.8 .

[Fastdeath]

See #2825

[effigy]

So, when 2.3.9 is released:

1) map-mods of any sort won't work (even the vampiric NTW mod by Delphino)?

2) We won't be auto-kicked for cheating if we have a mapmod in our map folder?

3) We will be able to play mods in MP and skirmish if we load them from the command line (beyond most users, imo)

A) Will the autoload folder still work?

B) if a MP game is hosted with a mod will we see the name of the mod in the lobby?

[Fastdeath]

So, when 2.3.9 is released:

1) map-mods of any sort won't work (even the vampiric NTW mod by Delphino)?

2) We won't be auto-kicked for cheating if we have a mapmod in our map folder?

3) We will be able to play mods in MP and skirmish if we load them from the command line (beyond most users, imo)

A) Will the autoload folder still work?

B) if a MP game is hosted with a mod will we see the name of the mod in the lobby?

1) Yes, but dont know whats special with the Delphinio's mod.
.. Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes

[effigy]

Nice answers Fast not as nice as proper mapmod (or mod in general) support, though

I think Delphino's mod was the one most famous for confusing new users as to why they were "all of a sudden" getting kicked from games <2.3.8.

[vexed]

Nice answers Fast not as nice as proper mapmod (or mod in general) support, though

I think Delphino's mod was the one most famous for confusing new users as to why they were "all of a sudden" getting kicked from games <2.3.8.

We never had proper mapmod support. That is the problem. We just had hacks.

[NoQ]

We never had proper mapmod support. That is the problem. We just had hacks.

It was good enough. The question now is rather if we care more about skirmish players or about online players, for i myself would definitely prefer current map-mod support, even though i understand the situation.

[Iluvalar]

I must humbly admit that it's Zarel's fix not mine.

And hey ! this have nothing to do with kicking single player skirmishers our of the community. That's just about telling them : "sorry, you'll need to extract your mod prior to loading it." That's it ! They do not suffer more then that. An once in a release unzip. Hey ! I bet we could even just unzip the mod for them in the next release .

[effigy]

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We never had proper mapmod support. That is the problem. We just had hacks.

I assume "hacks" is an economic term when attempting to improve old code.

I hope we see similar on-the-fly loading of mods in MP and skirmish master games. My worry here is that not only will 2.3 never get "proper" mapmod support, it won't have it's work around either.

[zydonk]

I must humbly admit that it's Zarel's fix not mine.

And hey ! this have nothing to do with kicking single player skirmishers our of the community. That's just about telling them : "sorry, you'll need to extract your mod prior to loading it." That's it ! They do not suffer more then that. An once in a release unzip. Hey ! I bet we could even just unzip the mod for them in the next release .

What are you talking about?

(As for playing the 1.10 mod - I do so because it gives better gameplay than the vanilla. Try it yourselves and see....)