Changing order for Lancer Missile Warhead Research

[Ryo]

The actual order for Missile Warheads is

Lancer AT - Rocket
HEAT Rocket Warhead
HESH Rocket Warhead

But i think HEAT and HESH (the Research Names) should be switched:
Lancer AT - Rocket
HESH Rocket Warhead
HEAT Rocket Warhead

Afaik, HESH-Warheads for use against Tanks had allready been replaced with HEAT-Warheads in the 70s-80s, because they are superior ineffective against composite-alloy-armors. Ask Wikipedia.com for HESH.

In WZ the FIRST Armorupgrade researchable are "Composite Alloys"

So, researching FIRST HEAT-Wardheads, that are effective against composite-alloys, THEN switching to HESH-Warheads would not make sence imho.

Ryo

[lav_coyote25]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_explo ... nk_warhead

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_explosive_squash_head

there now go read!!

[Ryo]

Like i sayed

[Assault Gunner]

With these tanks, the "spall" damage of a HESH warhead would do critical damage to internal systems. If the internal systems don't work, then it doesn't matter how much armor you have. In fact, without balance, I posit that there is a good chance one of these would 1-shot disable any tank. HEAT is superior only from an armor penetration purpose, and thus is best used in cannon shells unless you have "silver bullet" U-238 penetrators.

[Tenoh]

pfft, those are only research names,both do same thing and not matter in witch order,they just give % to damage.

[Assault Gunner]

That too.

[Ryo]

Composit-Alloy-Armor reduces the spall-Damage to nearly nothing. Because of the different layers off the Composite, the explosionshockwave wont be directed inside the tank.

[Assault Gunner]

But the armor in WZ has a single layer, it just gets denser as you improve your upgrades. Hence my above statement.

[Ryo]

But the armor in WZ has a single layer

But the research ist called "Composite-Alloys"
And composite-materials are per definition multi-layered

[Assault Gunner]

In this case, I believe it means a composite of several metals, alloyed together. Look, we could argue over this for weeks. Shall we just agree to leave it as-is because it really isn't important?

[Ryo]

Afaik even a composite of several metals would neutralize the explosion-shockwave from the squashhead. This is one point composite-alloys are made for. This is the point.

Its not realy important, but imho the WZ-Research-Tree is very realistic and one feature of WarZone. So i thougth it would a good idea to change this researchorder ,-)

[Assault Gunner]

Well, I don't really care either way, so *shrug* I just enjoy a good argument.

[Zarel]

lololol. I'm fine with either way, but I do need someone to tell me which one's the right answer.

[Ryo]

The cleverer give in! So....

I AM RIGHT!

Asking Wiki:

HESH shells rely instead on the transmission of the shock wave through the solid steel armour.

From the 1970s onwards tank armour design has tended towards layered composites of hard metal and heat-resistant materials. This type of armour is a poor conductor of the shock wave. "Spall liners", made of materials such as Kevlar, are commonly fitted to the interior surface of the armour where it acts to retain any spall that does occure

In the 70s, 130 Years before WZ Squash-Heads are outrun! And WZ-Vehicles should be far FAR away from any cold-war-tank, expecialy because the veryfirst armorupgrade is called composite-alloys.

Sorry i dont have any othe english source i could use / quote.

But im obstinately repeating myself

[Tenoh]

Really doesnt matter what armor upgrade is called,even if it would only be called armor upgrade 1,it would do the same bloody thing.Unless you come up with the whole new research tree and add armor layer and stuff in to the game mechanics.