why there are no new maps in the game?

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why there are no new maps in the game?

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Is there a reason you do not put nice, tested maps which can be found here on forums into the official game? My dad, who has a lot of problems with windows etc (and he does not speak english) is completely unable to install a new map.
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Re: why there are no new maps in the game?

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There are some new maps in the game. Any one map in particular you would like to see included?
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It's really good to hear :) thanks Per

my dad complains about lack of 1-1 maps mostly. I helped him (via phone, which was a nightmare cause he does not speak english) with installing some 1-1s but I don't know which of them are nice. Maybe other players could help with suggesting which 1-1s are nice enough to be put into official release?
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2c-TwinnyHilly by Michal is getting good ratings, I didn't personally test it myself but took a look with flaME - looks good.

Rman told me that 2c-Arena#22 is as good as the original 2-player maps, I personally like it as it adds some unexplored elements to the map (dunes) - don't play it if you prefer maps with lot of cliffs and difficult passages.

Those are the only ones I really took a look at and found interesting, perhaps other members got other nice new maps to indicate :)

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Per wrote:There are some new maps in the game. Any one map in particular you would like to see included?
I would like to nominate 8c-CloverRush to be included in the game proper. It is an incredibly well-done 8-player version of the stock 4c-Rush map.

I do not know who made the map or what it's license is. It is inside the map pack which can be found in this post
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Re: why there are no new maps in the game?

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Note that we can only include maps with a known and appropriate license. Nominating maps with unclear or unacceptable licensing is pointless.
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Per wrote:Note that we can only include maps with a known and appropriate license. Nominating maps with unclear or unacceptable licensing is pointless.
In a small complementation, good maps should be uploaded to the "addons" page by the author, during which proccess he is already prompted to license his work, with a quick, insightful explanation of the 3 default licenses. I believe that someday the "addons" page will have a rating system so that the staff can know what the folks think about the maps, and consider adding it to the game within an already select group. This is my own opinion, though (maybe I should add this to my sig :lol2: )

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Maybe we can later (when important things will be done or someone will have free time) have an in game UI for downloading new content from that addons page?
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Emdek wrote:Maybe we can later (when important things will be done or someone will have free time) have an in game UI for downloading new content from that addons page?
Why? the currently planned system is:
You want to join a game that uses X map and/or Y mod > If you have the map and/or mod, fine, if you don't, they are sent to you. > After you acquire X or Y, they are opened and you can participate of the game, then X and Y are now already saved on your WZ folder for future similar situations.

I think it is far from worth the efforts, since this system I've mentioned is what's planned (I guess), really :|

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Olrox, but what with single player games?
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Emdek wrote:Olrox, but what with single player games?
Open your browser (for me, it takes something between 1 and 3 seconds), and click on the already planned "Addons" page and choose for maps and mods, just like you would on the menu you've mentioned, but a hundred times easier for the devs, as they won't need to mess with GUI, or integrating the site databases to the game, or... unnecessary stuff.

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Olrox, for me this is no problem, but for some new users it is, some of them even don't know project website address (for example downloaded game from another site or via repository). And there is need to put it in right directory too (yes, described, but there will be always people which will do it wrong ;-)).
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Re: why there are no new maps in the game?

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Emdek wrote:Olrox, for me this is no problem, but for some new users it is, some of them even don't know project website address (for example downloaded game from another site or via repository). And there is need to put it in right directory too (yes, described, but there will be always people which will do it wrong ;-)).
Then placing a clickable link to the website, somewhere in the game menu, and links to "How to install a map/mod" section of the "FAQ" page, on the "Addons" page, would already be enough IMO.

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Olrox wrote:Then placing a clickable link to the website, somewhere in the game menu, and links to "How to install a map/mod" section of the "FAQ" page, on the "Addons" page, would already be enough IMO.
Yes, that is enough (maybe kind of about page, similar to information shown when exiting game?) but I still think that kind of button labeled "Get more maps..." placed under list of available content would be good (best when it would open simple GUI, but opening web page would be enough).
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You are missing the point. It was suggested to the game developers to incorporate the existing map maker into the game itself so the right maps for the game could be created by any user. We were told that the current game developers didn't have the necessary skills needed to incorporate the map maker in to the game properly. If you haven't figured it out for yourself by now - the current game developers don't have the necessary skills needed for most aspects of this game - that is why you always see the same changes in their Beta releases but never the changes this game needs.
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