Improving the artwork in Warzone2100 - not for mod discussions
MaNGusT
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Post by MaNGusT 26 Mar 2010, 15:20
Olrox wrote: Hey man, my 2 cents on those textures:
IMO, the cliffs should be distinct from any other tile type whenever possible, regardless of real cliffs, especially due to the way they curretly are: a very steep slope. unless we are working with 3d cliffs, and have an specific, easily distinguishable shape for them, I think we should keep some distinct look on the texture, even if it doesn't match with the real cliffs that much.
Those could be a bit more desaturated overall. Probably making them with 50% the color of the "red" tiles could hit the spot, maybe. Just a thought anyway, they are good, but can be improved
The concrete tiles are much better, they could use some 10% yellow tone, I think. Tiles still could be bigger IMO
Keep up the good work!
what variant of the cliffs do you like more?
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Post by macuser 26 Mar 2010, 15:36
Hey mangust... could you possibly bump map the cliffs? You know how it fades out the cliff texture when it meets the top or the ground. Just have it fade out the bump map too
... looking VERY good I like variant 2
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MaNGusT
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Post by MaNGusT 26 Mar 2010, 15:40
macuser wrote: Hey mangust... could you possibly bump map the cliffs? You know how it fades out the cliff texture when it meets the top or the ground. Just have it fade out the bump map too
... looking VERY good I like variant 2
I can't do that because the wz engine doesn't rotate a textures.
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Post by macuser 26 Mar 2010, 16:01
Why would that stop bump mapped textures?
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MaNGusT
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Post by MaNGusT 26 Mar 2010, 16:27
macuser wrote: Why would that stop bump mapped textures?
Engine doesn't support bump mapping. About what bump mapping do you tell me?
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Post by macuser 26 Mar 2010, 16:31
MaNGusT wrote: macuser wrote: Why would that stop bump mapped textures?
Engine doesn't support bump mapping. About what bump mapping do you tell me?
I'm talking bout normal maps but I thought the engine did support them
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Olrox
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Post by Olrox 26 Mar 2010, 16:35
macuser wrote:
I'm talking bout normal maps but I thought the engine did support them
The devs said they'd work on support for normal mapping if they have enough stuff that use it.
BTW, Mangust, I like the third variation but think it could be desaturated until it looks more grayish, not
THAT much, only 35% - 50% max
~Olrox
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Post by MaNGusT 26 Mar 2010, 17:29
Olrox wrote: BTW, Mangust, I like the third variation but think it could be desaturated until it looks more grayish, not THAT much, only 35% - 50% max
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Rman Virgil
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Post by Rman Virgil 26 Mar 2010, 18:09
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Variant 2 - especially the far right, mid-screen region, stands out to my eye as apt, form serving function in totality,
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macuser
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Post by macuser 26 Mar 2010, 18:28
Perhaps for some things like water it could be actualy rendered not just a texture and be turned off on low end computers. Just a suggestion.
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DuKe2112
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Post by DuKe2112 26 Mar 2010, 20:20
Actually rendering means the whole process, eg applying a texture.
Zarel
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Post by Zarel 26 Mar 2010, 20:27
What do you mean by "actually rendered"?
Zarax
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Post by Zarax 26 Mar 2010, 20:34
I suspect it means pre-rendered animations or the reflection effects.
macuser
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Post by macuser 26 Mar 2010, 20:39
Zarel wrote: What do you mean by "actually rendered"?
Like instead of just a texture have an actual moving animated reflective and normal mapped object like in my pic.
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Olrox
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Post by Olrox 26 Mar 2010, 22:25
MaNGusT wrote:
wz2100_shot_028.png
Yeah, it looks a tad too gray, probably applying the same effect with less intensity on variant 2 could be better.
~Olrox
