Disabling technologies in skirmish/MP.

[NoQ]

I've read the devs' wiki but I think I need more help on this. I'm kinda newbie in modding.

I have an idea of several mods that disable different technologies. I wouldn't mind if someone else makes them for me. But I also want to learn how to make them myself, and I don't yet understand how to do it. The first one seem to be the simpliest - it looks like it's enough to change just one bit in the game - but I don't know which one - the *research.txt files are so big! I've made several attempts but nothing changed in the game and no error messages were reported.

1. T0/T1/T2 mods that disable SynapticLink/DedicatedSynapticLinc/NeuralSynapseResearchBrain technologies respectively (and everything they lead to). I've seen an old "T1 mod" but it doesn't work with current versions anymore. (and unpacking it didn't give me any understanding how it works)

2. A mod to disable all defensive structures (walls, towers, bunkers, hardpoints, emplacements, mortar pits, fortresses). This would prevent turtling. Maybe It would be good to leave MG towers and tank traps to prevent early rushes as well. All sensors and artillery are allowed only as vehicles. The Satellite Uplink Center and Laser Satellites are allowed since there are no vehicles that can replace them. Another good idea is to introduce a tower limit (eg. no more then 20 defensive structures), but it's offtopic and must be more difficult.

3. (Maybe) a mod to disable VTOLs.

These are mostly MP-oriented, but I still wish to see the feature of sending mods as maps implemented (which is already in the accepted wishes list).

[KukY]

Yeah, reasearch is way too complicated for me.
I never did anything with researches in my mods.

There is no need for "No VTOL" mod, because you can simply disable VTOL Factory in limits menu.

About tower limits;
You can't limit type of structure (DEFENSE) now, but you can easily limit single structure and make them ajdustable.
Look at "multilim.slo" and "multilim.vlo".

[NoQ]

Well, I'm about to make my first mod once again but it doesn't work

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// multilim.slo                                                            
//                                                                         
// define maximum limits for structures in limits screen here              
// only stats mentioned here will be added to limits screen.               


public  STRUCTURESTAT           factory;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           oilDerrick;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           powerGen;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           research;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           comdroid;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           cybfac;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           repair;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           vtolfact;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           vtolpad;
public  STRUCTURESTAT           mgtower;

event initialisedEvent(init)
{
        setStructureLimits(mgtower,     5,      0);
        setStructureLimits(factory,     5,      0);
        setStructureLimits(oilDerrick,  30,     0);
        setStructureLimits(powerGen,    10,     0);
        setStructureLimits(research,    5,      0);
        setStructureLimits(comdroid,    1,      0);
        setStructureLimits(cybfac,      5,      0);
        setStructureLimits(repair,      5,      0);
        setStructureLimits(vtolfact,    5,      0);
        setStructureLimits(vtolpad,     50,     0);

}

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// multilim.vlo
//
// define maximum limits for structures in limits screen here
// only stats mentioned here will be added to limits screen.


script "multilim.slo"
run
{

//structures
mgtower                 STRUCTURESTAT           "CO-Tower-MG3"
factory                 STRUCTURESTAT           "A0LightFactory"
oilDerrick              STRUCTURESTAT           "A0ResourceExtractor"
powerGen                STRUCTURESTAT           "A0PowerGenerator"
research                STRUCTURESTAT           "A0ResearchFacility"
comdroid                STRUCTURESTAT           "A0ComDroidControl"
cybfac                  STRUCTURESTAT           "A0CyborgFactory"
repair                  STRUCTURESTAT           "A0RepairCentre3"
vtolfact                STRUCTURESTAT           "A0VTolFactory1"
vtolpad                 STRUCTURESTAT           "A0VtolPad"
}

Here is what I put into the archive:

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./base
./base/multiplay
./base/multiplay/script
./base/multiplay/script/multilim.vlo
./base/multiplay/script/multilim.slo

And then I start it as --mod=my.wz
It says mod is enabled but I don't see any new structure limits in the skirmish limit screen.

[KukY]

ALWAYS put new things on end of that file.
And make sure that they are in same order in all lists.
In first list you placed new entry on first place, and on others on last place.

And command line isn't "--mod=mod.wz", it is "--mod mod.wz".

Your archive isn't supposed to have "base" folder in it.
So structure should be:

• <root>
• <root>/multiplay
• <root>/multiplay/script
• <root>/multiplay/script/multilim.vlo
• <root>/multiplay/script/multilim.slo

Any of these things could made your mod not work.
I need to see your mod to tell you exactly what are you doing wrong.
That kind of thing you did, describing and writing your mod in post isn't good.
Simply post your mod.

This is mine version of it:

mod.wz

It look like this:

wz2100_shot_001.png

You need to learn lot more things.
But I see you are going to be a good modder later.

[NoQ]

Yeah, thanks,fixed multiple mistakes and it's working now.
BTW, command "--mod=..." works fine for me (linux).

But now the mod is totally useless since all the towers I've found are campaign-only scavenger towers.
Where do I find some sort of list of skirmish buildings?

[KukY]

But now the mod is totally useless since all the towers I've found are campaign-only scavenger towers.
Where do I find some sort of list of skirmish buildings?

Skirmish buildings are in "mp.wz".
And there are lot more of other towers and defenses.
Those are mainly structures with DEFENSE type (Hardpoints, bunkers, emplacements... ) .

[NoQ]

Working
Testing it right now; bash and awk saved me a lot of time.

The limit page is limited to four pages only and still there are lots of scav towers here
And I couldn't just disable them totally, so I still can build one of a kind by default.

[NoQ]

Works only when you explicitly apply the limits (i.e. click ok on the structure limit screen)
:-S

[NoQ]

And it's a completely different game.
Thanks a lot 13KukYNexus666!

But still we have the mod #1 to do :rolleyes:

[KukY]

In future, if nobody posted after you, do not make new post, just edit your old post.
That multi-posting makes Zarel angry. xD ( viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4267#p42496 )

You realy have nothing to do, do you?
You placed limit on all defensive structures in game.

[NoQ]

You realy have nothing to do, do you?

No, I just did it automatically with shell scripts. Now I have to find out which towers are actually buildable. UNIX makes people lazy you know ... :rolleyes:

That multi-posting makes Zarel angry

Sorry.
(some forum engines automatically join the messages from one user )

(oh, what an offtopic message I just wrote ...)

[KukY]

UNIX

You use UNIX?
Let me remember what that is...

(some forum engines automatically join the messages from one user )
(oh, what an offtopic message I just wrote ...)

It isn't actually offtopic.
I warned you. ---> That isn't either offtopic or connected to topic (ontopic xD ) - It is simply a warning.
You replied to me. ---> You had to reply. (You haven't, but...)

EDIT: Is UNIX that server OS specialized for multi users?

[Zarel]

Most people these days, when they say "Unix", mean a Unix-like, like Linux, or a Unix-compatible OS, like Mac OS X or BSD.