I'm having an issue with my custom templates

[whippersnapper]

I thought you meant "unmodified" as in the one you uploaded to filedropper. I didn't know you meant the original .txt files.

I added the "suggested defensive structure templates". They didn't exist before.

"They didn't exist before" in the mp.wz resources OR the a.i. .vlo or both ?? Meaning - did you create new defense structures that do not exist in mp.wz or base.wz ? (meaning, for one that you are combining .pies that do not exist as such ?) Or your templates are of existing defensive structures that the a.i. vlo is not using that you want it to use ?

How about we approach it this way -

List here in a post and in plain English the defensive structures you want the A.I. to use...

This is what you gave me for the Defense Structs that you created...:

GuardTower-Rail2 _("Rail Gun Guard Tower")
GuardTower-Rail3 _("Gauss Cannon Guard Tower")
GuardTower-BeamLas _("Flashlight Guard Tower")
Emplacement-PulseLas _("Pulse Laser Emplacement")
GuardTower-MG3 _("Heavy Machinegun Guard Tower")
GuardTower-HPVcannon _("HPV Cannon Guard Tower")
Emplacement-MG3 _("Heavy Machinegun Emplacement")
Emplacement-HPVcannon _("Alternate HPV Cannon Emplacement")
Emplacement-RotCan _("Assault Cannon Emplacement")
Emplacement-MortarPit01 _("Mortar Emplacement")
Emplacement-MortarPit02 _("Bombard Emplacement")
Emplacement-RotMor _("Pepperpot Emplacement")
Emplacement-Mortar-Incenediary _("Incenediary Mortar Emplacement")
Emplacement-Howitzer105 _("Howitzer Site")
Emplacement-Howitzer150 _("Ground Shaker Site")
Emplacement-Howitzer03-Rot _("Hellstorm Site")
Emplacement-Howitzer-Incenediary _("Incenediary Howitzer Site")

* Take your: Emplacement-RotCan _("Assault Cannon Emplacement")

- This is wrong.... an "Assault Cannon" is already defined as "VulcanCan" not a "RotCan"

* Or your: GuardTower-MG3 _("Heavy Machinegun Guard Tower")

- This already exists as: GuardTower3 _("Heavy Machinegun Tower")

* Or your: Emplacement-Howitzer105 _("Howitzer Site")

- Already exists as: Howitzer105Mk1-Pit _("Howitzer Emplacement")

And so on....

See what I mean ? Need to go back to square one I think....

Regards, whipper
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[Arreon]

Heavy Machinegun Tower - I wanted to be able to use the guard tower in the concrete form (the same tower that the Scourge Missile is on).

Howitzer Site - I wanted the Howitzer to be on the same structure as the Vindicator Missiles.

I wanted the weapons to be on different structures. I guess I forgot to tell you that.

[whippersnapper]

Heavy Machinegun Tower - I wanted to be able to use the guard tower in the concrete form (the same tower that the Scourge Missile is on).

Howitzer Site - I wanted the Howitzer to be on the same structure as the Vindicator Missiles.

I wanted the weapons to be on different structures. I guess I forgot to tell you that.

I see... that all makes sense now. You are essentially wanting to make new .Pie combos

Could you post just the changes you made to the structures.txt file.... each line for ONLY your new defense structs (NOT the whole structures.txt...... I just wanna see what you did...... which should show how you switched up the .pies for one) ?

Regards, whipper

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[Arreon]

Here's the structures file.

structures.txt

[whippersnapper]

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Thanks Arreon, that helps a lot.

I'll have a chance to go over everything on Sunday and will get back to you then....

Regards, whipper

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[whippersnapper]

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Quicky sample of structure changes in-game... I'll explain tomorrow 'cause, to be honest, I'm a little burnt-out on this text-editing and wanna
get back to my own stuff today. Nothing personal here, I just used to do a lot of this type editing with WZCK Utility back in the day and it was so
much more fun and lightening fast in comparison to doing it "by hand".







Regards, whipper

[Zarel]

Erm... artillery hardpoints?

You do realize that the most important part of artillery is that they have low defense? If you mount them on hardpoints... man, the balance, it's maddening...

[whippersnapper]

Erm... artillery hardpoints?

You do realize that the most important part of artillery is that they have low defense? If you mount them on hardpoints... man, the balance, it's maddening...

Not to worry .... this was just my goofy sense of humor..... it's not for a mod release from me - you can be sure.

Regards, whipper

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[whippersnapper]

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Started adding information to the Text Editing Wiki page here:

http://developer.wz2100.net/wiki/TxtEditing

Regards, whipper

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[whippersnapper]

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K.... I started from scratch by first making a copy of .mp.wz and calling it "arreonmod.wz".... then proceeded to edit

I made only 2 of your proposed new structures and got 'em in-game: the "Howitzer Site" and the "Gauss Cannon Guard Tower". (see screen cap below)

Work your way starting with names.txt...... then proceeding to structures.txt, etc to see how i did it (and keep the Wiki Text Editing page handy for ref... this is only way to learn, really - http://developer.wz2100.net/wiki/TxtEditing ).

I only made 2 because this is your mod and I have tons of my own work to stay focused on.

Here is the download for the files you can continue working on, modifying, and make it entirely yours: http://www.filedropper.com/arreonmod_1

I made sure I saw Become Prey A.I use the "Howtizer Site" because it was declared in .vlo

However.... Become Prey has sophisticated arty scripting (.slo) which defines under what conditions it builds arty and in the game I ran though while it did build the new "Howitzer Site".... because of prevailing game conditions and the way .slo is written it built way more Hellstorms and Ground Shakers .. So what I'm saying is that even if you properly modify the structures in .vlo there is no assurance in how it will play-out in-game because that is a way more complex proposition involving the controlling .slo scripts and I would NOT recommend messing with those scripts unless you get a lot of WZ AI experience / know-how under your belt down the road..

Anyway.... hope this helps some.... good luck with your mod and.... have fun.

Regards, whip



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