The Doc's Bio Lab for Scav Experiments - & other oddities.

[Merowingg]

I am sorry for bringing chaos. But Rman knows, it is how I work and there is a method in this chaos after all

[Rman Virgil]

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* Was a time when I thrived on fixing tech. Not anymore. Now it just plum wears me out.

So... thanks, guys, for sharing those YouTube vids. Good stuff. Got my juices flowing back to creating as opposed to fixing a tech mess.

* @ Mero: I do understand. It's my process too. At least half the time I'm every which way, exploring different segues, experimenting with different constructs, till I zone in. No worries. You most definitely have NOT injected chaos into these proceedings. Your energy is good & presence nothing less than welcome. Carry on as it suits your nature.

* @ aubergine: I started toying around last couple days with re-doing the timeline re-vision in different apps: mind-mapping and ebook, in particular. But then there's another part of me that thinks I should stick to a simple text doc, at least for a while yet. What do you think ?

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[Rman Virgil]

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Just finished this recent National Geographic article on rising sea levels thru 2100.

http://ocean.nationalgeographic.com/oce ... evel-rise/

* Was wondering how far towards the high end estimates to go with ?

* Then time line it at what point that apocalyptic movements pick up steam ?

* That decision would come at what point in the lives of our protagnists ? And how would it effect their course ?

* How would those apocalytic scenarios effect the different principle factions like the Transhumanists, Survivalists, NWO..?

* Then I got to making possible connections to discussions very early on in this thread revolving around Malthus, Archologies / Farmscapes & Floating Cities. The later three maybe having implications beyond backstory & into new gameplay. Like, for example, water maps where the start bases were islands and the resources to capture where in Floating Cities that were moving around the map. Or resource rich Archology / Farmscapes that could only accomodate borg engagements. Or... I'm just starting to ramble & should call it a day.
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[Rman Virgil]

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~ Happily, my HW repairs were successful. I've also made headway on restoring my customized ecology and various workflows for writeing, music, art and brainstorming. It was an unexpected trial but it's done and built more robust in the process. All good in the end.

~ So, back to this effort with the tech mess distraction behind me. Here is how I'm proceeding prior to contructing the next version of the Grand Backstory Timeline.

~ Ton of material here, plus what yet remains unposted, that I need to review carefully, more than once, to get a big picture handle in my head. Part of this includes additional research on various subjects that have arisen, with a special emphasis on The NWO topic. My latest being Canadian economist Michel Chossudovsky's "The Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order".

~ With that handle firmer in my mind, I'll proceed to organize the material through my workflow for not only generating a timeline from 2013 to 2100 but also for the likely hood I will attempt a Sci Fi novel out of all this.

~ That workflow includes the following apps:

* The Brain 7 Pro

* TreeDB Notes Pro

* Dramatica Pro

* IdeaFisher / Thought Office

* de Bono's "Serious Creativity" suite.

~ Ultimately what I will post here will be an abbreviated, simple, and flat, text timeline from 2013-2100 with just the highlights and none of the dynamic relationships or linked rationales which will comprise the creative matrix from which it is derived.

~ When ? Probably not before next weekend. Gotta fit this in between RL stuff like my job, a music project, mainstream fiction work, continuing to restore my custom ecology - workflows and catching up on my culture blog.

~ But, in the interim, since I like to alternate using both brain hemispheres, I will likely post an illustration that I've been visualizing in my minds eye, for the past week, of John Hammond's first meeting with Dr. Reed at the International Cybernetics Symposium in Oslo, Norway. I'm also 'bout halfway through the next draft of chapter 4 of the Scav novella, "Crude in Sur Amerika" so I might finish and post that this week too. Who knows, might even find a spare 10 secs to contribute a WZ post to the "Corrupt a Wish Thread" where of late some can't seem to create within the basic structure of the form.

~ Guess that's it for now.

- Regards, Rman.


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[Goth Zagog-Thou]

Back from a little hiatus. I am VERY much enjoying the discussion! If I have any ideas I'll be sure to post them.

Fascinating stuff!

[Rman Virgil]

Back from a little hiatus. I am VERY much enjoying the discussion! If I have any ideas I'll be sure to post them.

Fascinating stuff!

~ For sure Goth. Whatever you come up with will be welcome. Your re-boot of CAM 4 was the trigger inspiration that got this going like a snowball rolling down from a winter peak, gathering momentum and mass all along the way till it became the size of 10 story apartment building. aubergine's input having much to do with that spectacular growth. And Mero's suggestion for a new female character was another key tributary.

~ It's obvious I'm very jazzed about it all. A little anxious and little intimidated too. Anxious to work-out the next iteration of the Grand Backstory Timeline, in a plausible and cohesive fashion, such that in it's ultimate form it is at least generative. A little intimidated to attempt shaping this mass of material into a compelling, character-driven, dystopian, apocalyptic, satirical, Sci Fi adventure, of novel scope. Nothing ventured, nothing gained, for either effort. We'll roll with it as far as the fire in the belly will take us in conjunction with sustained fresh imaginings and a level of skillful artistry brought to bear in the tangible making whose reach will hopefully not exceed its grasp...

~ Looks like I may incurred another bout of smileyittis. I don't think it's in a contagious form. But I'm not sure. Mero would know best, I think.

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[Rman Virgil]

~ Ton of material here, plus what yet remains unposted, that I need to review carefully, more than once, to get a big picture handle in my head. Part of this includes additional research on various subjects that have arisen, with a special emphasis on The NWO topic. My latest being Canadian economist Michel Chossudovsky's "The Globalization of Poverty and the New World Order".

In our discussions of integrating "The NWO" into our expanded backstory and, in particular, to the Dr. Alan Reed bio, we raised the scepter of mind manipulation on a massive scale. This first crossed my radar (outside the fictional portrayal in Orwell's "1984") many moons ago with Vance Packard's "Hidden Persuaders" and overs the years through other seminal works, like Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" and Jim Marrs' "Rule by Secrecy", all tackling it from various angles. Not to mention the history of the CFR, the Fed Res, the CIA, the Bilderburg Group, Tri-Lateral Commission and even the 1500 years of Vatican covert activity captured and contained in its Archive of 52 miles of shelved tomes.

Last night doing some research I came across "Psychological Warfare and the New World Order: The Secret War Against the American People by Servando Gonzalez, a native Cuban and historian by profession.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/093236 ... ttom_links

From everything I can gather, it looks like a reputable, non-kooky, scholarly grounded, rational work. I'm further inclined to get my hands on a copy to study carefully, after reading the following interview with the author. Over a cup of potent Cuban brew and tamales.

http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/meet ... orld-order

The contents of this work can be found on the author's website for the book here: http://www.psywarandnwo.com/

Plus the rest of his work, interviews and blogging can be accessed through that link. He's the real deal. Great find, imho.

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Besides the Hammond & Reed bios and their relationship, I'd also like to more explicitely correlate the factions to all this covert history.

This effort also has deep linkage for me to the cutting edge game design work being pioneered by folks like Jane McGonigal. But I won't get into any of that here because I suspect interest to be on the continuum between nil and nil based on past postings on the subject.

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In short, this is all a game changer for me. On par, to my mind, as would be more facile C & C, multi-vector, coordinated velocity maneuver, to the game play of WZ itself, over the current simplistic, monolithic frontline and associated how many angels can dance on the head of a pin conversations that miss the point entirely. To institutionalize shortfalls by focusing on augmenting their granularity is not the best solution, I venture. Perhaps cognitive dissonance and selective exposure factor in. Certainly the vested interest of having mastered a flawed status quo and not being terrible inclined to master a new major state, however greatly improved, does factor into resistence through disinterest. Be that all as it may, ultimately the proof is in the pudding and the time is not yet ripe to bake that dish to serve it up with a knowing smile. In any case, there is more than enough to attend here till that optimal occasion emerges.

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[Rman Virgil]

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The following works round-out, and put a fairly firm cap on, my primary research sources. Going forward it will be fact-checking, as the need arises.

In the genre of speculative fiction that prognosticates from the present, these type of relationships lend to the plausibilty that plays a key role in the willing suspension of disbelief, even more so than fiction taking place in what's commonly called the "known world" - or even an entirely constructed fantasy world.

That said, I am also mindfull of what historian team Will and Ariel Durant said after completing thier 60 year project, the 11-volume "Story of Civilization", when asked how they felt about their work being out-dated by future discoveries.

"Were we to have awaited perfection, we would never have begun our work, let alone get it done over the course of 6 decades."

(Paraphrasing from memory.)

~ The Ruling Elite: a Study in Imperialism, Genocide and Emancipation by Deanna Spingola.

~ Full Spectrum Dominance: Totalitarian Democracy in the New World Order by F. William Engdahl

~ Design for Ecological Democracy by Randolph T. Hester.

~ The Flooded Earth: Our Future In a World Without Ice Caps by Peter D. Ward

~ The Gathering Biological Warfare Storm by Jim A. Davis (Editor), Barry R. Schneider (Editor).

Time has come to again liberate my dominant right brain, and give free reign my naturally analogical predisposition, that I may journey with the Nine Princes of Serendip and do the conjuring of tales and imagery that are the wellspring of happy times, pure and simple. An insouciance of doughty independence that is exhilarating and inextricably bound to a secular spirituality that has zero interest in unsolicited proselytizing, that being the heart of it and not these postings. These being something of a lagniappe for the game, its original creators, and very select sub-set of fans, that have been, all told, over 14 years, a gift that keeps on giving.

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[aubergine]

Currently busy on other parts of the interwebs, but saw this and thought of Warzone: http://worldtruth.tv/seattle-to-build-n ... od-forest/

[Rman Virgil]

Currently busy on other parts of the interwebs, but saw this and thought of Warzone: http://worldtruth.tv/seattle-to-build-n ... od-forest/

Hear ya. Mine would be mostly Behance and 99U. Love those communities. Closest on the interwebs to what I'm used to in RL on the East coast in NYC and on the West Coast from San Fran to Silicon Valley.

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That Seattle story-link makes me wanna live there... again, and for longer than the 6 months I spent there finishing up a contract with the Telco, Qwest.

I especially liked the waterfront which made me think of Sausalito and Tiburon across the Bay, other side of Alcatraz Island and San Fran's Fisherman's Wharf. Not to mention the vibrant art and live music scene both areas have in common. Denver, Colorado's scene is good as well but there's something about being right on the Pacific ocean coast that even the magestic Rocky Mountains cannot make up for. 'Course in our projected timeline both Seattle and San Francisco will suffer as a consequence of rising sea levels and one of the safest places to be in the US, post-Collapse and coastal flooding, will be Rocky Mountain country, even more so having removed NORAD as a primary nuke target.

Also reminds me of a really well done, low budget, post-apocalyptic Sci Fi flick from a couple years ago (2010) called "The Lost Future" staring Sean Bean. What they lacked in production dollars they made up for with splendid creativity in set design and fresh take on the post-apocalyptic trope. The way some of the survivors are organized and portrayed parallels what I began doing with The Scav Seven Nations in 2004.

There's a sequence where the characters journey from their normal wilderness habitat to a city that is thick with trees and agri cultivation through out all the streets, between buildings and on roof tops. Visually arresting and at the time made me think that there could be cities in WZ that were not nuke targets, would not endure a thermal blast, and could simply be decrepit with the wilderness reclaiming them.
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[Merowingg]

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[Rman Virgil]

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The popularity of this thread grows. 9 spotted is a very good result. I had it once only, or at least I have spotted it once only.

Rman you have e mail Nameless dont be shy, give us yor name

Yes yes I bring nothing useful again. But I do miracles to catch up

Got it and responded. Have some questions before I can go any further.

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As to the recent proceedings in this thread...

Well, I'll tell you what I value, what I know, what may come about from this effort, and what I flat out don't know.

What I know is that the engagement of aubergine, Goth and yourself, have been inspiring and substantive. Been motivated to get back into it when I had one foot out the door and the other not far behind because what I'm interested in doing with GPMs won't be possible for another 1-2 years.

As I'm working on the expanded timeline, including the Reed and Hammond bios, incorporating both what we've discussed at length and what we've only touched upon briefly, I've come to several meta realizations.

~ A story of novel scope is taking shape that I will attempt to write as an illustrated ebook. It's course will run from 2028 - 2085. It will revolve around 3 protaganists: Alan Reed, John Hammond and a female character never discussed. I've been evolving a new style of illustration based on my past work in the mediums of woodcut, linoleum printing and silk screen. I'm getting feedback from my RL fellow artist friends and an online artist community I can relate to 100%. I will not post any of that art here because I'm reserving it for the ebook / novel. I have one last illustration to finish in the initial style of this thread which I will post and then that'll be that.

~ In working on the new timeline, besides seeing the novel story, I see other possible stories I will never write, as well I can imagine there being even more stories I cannot see at all. But what I can see as a possibilty is inspiration for fan fiction other's may write, new maps, new mods, the basis for compelling, creative, mission constructs and entirely new campaigns with a meaningful, cohesive, story backbone. In other words, many years worth of fresh opportunities to come for creating re-boots, for pushing the envelope in fresh, exciting ways, and sustaining WZ's relevance and currency as a work of gaming art 4, 5, 6 years out. Without story, there's not much to anchor to. Not even your own identity. It's that fundamental.

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[aubergine]

With regards to the ebook, would it be possible to write in to your will that after X years it gets open sourced to the Warzone 2100 Project?

Found something else you might like to read (if you can obtain it): "Expeditionary Maneuver Warfare" by J. L. Jones of US Marine Corps, possibly available from www.mccdc.usmc.mil - it's only about 14 pages (with most of that pictures, so prolly about 6 pages of actual text in total) but incredibly insightful in to the mindset of modern warfare. If it's not available publicly then we never had this conversation and this forum post does not exist. Nothing to see here, move along now...

Would it be worth doing short bios of the various main characters both in the fanon and the canon? I imagine you've already done some work on that based on that software you mentioned in an earlier post.

Also, for the works already published (Crude in Sur Amerika, etc) would it be worth trying to guesstimate roughly where they appear in the enhanced timeline?

[Rman Virgil]

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There are a number of things I'm considering introducing into the expanded timeline, Pre-Collapse, that have not yet been discussed.

In this post I will throw into the arena for discussion 2 of these.

~ The first would be the estsblishment of a Moon Base of Operations and an L5 Space Colony.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L5_Society

~ The second would be Geoengineering, aka, "Hacking the Planet".
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoengineering

Two things I will briefly note.

* Both the above propositions have major implications Post-Collapse.

* As far as level design and gameplay, both propositions were doable with the retail version of the game and WZ Script. So I can imagine with the current iteration of the game and the JS API, they could be done with even superior results.

~ That said, my present focus is strictly in the storytelling implications of these timeline propositions and not on the creation of fresh gameplay through creative mapping, modding and scripting which I believe merit their own topic thread(s).

EDIT: @ aubergine: You posted while I was writing mine. Saw it after. Going to diner now so will respond later in the evening. Very quickly though. I have the .pdf of that doctrine from 2001... it's over 300 pgs. As for the ebook... was looking at it as a potential revenue source for the projects server espenses. More later.


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[aubergine]

A moon base would likely be used primarily to launch vast cargos to other planets, particularly Mars.

* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_the_Moon
* http://ares.jsc.nasa.gov/humanexplore/e ... ic040.html
* http://science.slashdot.org/story/12/09 ... ng-station
* http://www.aljazeera.com/video/americas ... 45168.html

It seems increasingly likely that these things would happen pre-Collapse. This would of course mean that there would be unaffected populations of humans on both the Moon and Mars. As for L5 stuff, I'm not sure - while we already have things like ISS, it seems that the main focus would be on getting Mars colonised, via the Moon. I'm not sure what a L4/L5 station would bring to the table (I've not investigated that tome thoroughly yet so I'm really just guessing on this aspect).

There is also the very real possibility of mining asteriods - certainly lots of 'profit' to be made if that can be achieved. Maybe that would better suit an L4/L5 style station - with practically no gravity, it would be much easier to dock with?

In regards to geo-engineering, it's already happening on a massive scale. I would avoid going down the chemtrails route at all costs (even though they exit, there is so much mis-information and pure bullchit out there that it's just too nasty to even contemplate untangling truth from delusion on that subject matter). However, in terms of geo-engineering itself, there are plenty of reliable and scientific resources available to mull over (although it's probably worth avoiding anything that goes in the direction of HAARP for same reason as chemtrails avoidance).