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What about my national emblem
Not enough heads. Probably a single-player challenge? (:
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Hehe :wink:

NoQ you are also one of those you can count on :3
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Merowingg wrote:I havent seen the movies and books you have listed.

But I also remember a series from ninetes where a family got into some sort of time hole with their car, and moved into a land with dinosaurs I think. I remember they lived in a very cool very big tree house, and used there their car from time to time when necessary. But it was not many times due to the lack of gasoline or anything other from modern word.
I vaguely remember that. It was like "Swiss Family Robinson" with dinos.
Merowingg wrote: Dinotopia's cover look very cool for me. Something like one of those old books with their very characteristic covers. Also the dinosaur to the right which name I dont remember even in Polish look so alive.
James Gurney, the artist, also wrote the original story. Basically, dinos had intelligence, culture and a society that was more advanced than humans. He made use of the Hollow Earth notion like Jules Verne and Edgar Rice Burroughs did. His paintings to illustrate his story do indeed remind one of the great illustrated books of the 19th and early 20th century.

Merowingg wrote: Well it was for few years we drew at after-school club or day-care room.

Man I lioved Lego, I had very few at the very beginning, but then by saving, and due to help of my uncle from Chicago I got more and more. But it still was not so many as children often have nowadays without appreciating it.

Now Rman Imagine how complex my creation here were :3 I remember building anything. And it was not those easy shapes as children built, with time more and more details appeared. I always considered to go for Lego contest which were made few times in Poland, but there was no time and money. But few times I was taken to the near city for enormous Lego works exchibitions. I was in paradise :)
When I was growing up there were many construction type toys, not just Legos. Some made out of plastic, some out of wood, some metal and some mixed combinations. I loved them all. They were a great sandbox for imaginative assemblage. These days, Legos dominates the market place. Most of the others are long out of business. Too bad. One of my favorites was based on the Synergetic Geometry of Buckminster Fuller - one of the great minds of the 20th century.

Merowingg wrote: Our history starts strongly from the date 966 A.D.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_of_Poland

I will ask around for good and reliable book about Polish history so I could give you a title if you would like.
Thanks. I would increase my understanding. :3

Merowingg wrote: It was a drawing club where members willingly appeared and just liked each other. What amazes me is what was my personality, that I said - Ok today we draw Huts with underground bases in mountains. And we all did. I remember that with time we evolved into ane draws what one likes ;)

No artist around here, damn it makes me think ;)
Never had that experience hanging out with visual artists. With musicians, another story. Always down to jam. :)

Merowingg wrote: Yes we talked about the old version of the Thomas Crown Affair movie but I could not reach it. The new one is to be woth Brosnan too... but if they lead it well, the movie could have great potential.

I am still not sure if you are not just too kind to tell me - ok man but this thread is about women in sunglasses.
I liked his work in Thomas Crown Affair more than his James Bond.

Women are endlessly facinating. Even more so with sunglasses. ;)
Merowingg wrote: I fight with my ability to put smileys everywhere very hard, and I do believe I have progress. Byt my yellow disease seem to affect others? :hmm: Could it evolve into plague?

I also know that many already killed me in mind with smiley of any kind just not to see those so many time again. I was asked so many times that I decided to react.

I like a sentence of my friend. "If already two people tell you you are drunk and go to bed, then go to bed"
Yeah, I remember the whole thing about too many emoticons.

And there is that old expression: "When in Rome, do as the Romans."

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Oh lol. Should i make a 1x1 map out of my two-headed eagle avatar? :lol2:
Why not ? With some abstraction. Like in pictograms or petroglyphs. :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictograms

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroglyph


I'm also reminded of Janus, the Roman god of 2 faces. A still powerful mythos, imo:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janus
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I have never heard about Janus :hmm:

But it is said that in a year 18.. something. There was a one particular case of man who had normal face and additional one a little less developped at the back of his head. The other head could only cry or smile. There is evan a picture, not very good as we realise. But what is interesting the man at certain age started ask doctors to remove the face as it was threatening him at night and wisshing him death.

Doctors did not believe and also had no knowledge how to operate such case. Soon after that the man commited suicide. It is said to be written as a normal case in some book at that time.

I always wonder if that could be true.
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Merowingg wrote:I have never heard about Janus :hmm:

But it is said that in a year 18.. something. There was a one particular case of man who had normal face and additional one a little less developped at the back of his head. The other head could only cry or smile. There is evan a picture, not very good as we realise. But what is interesting the man at certain age started ask doctors to remove the face as it was threatening him at night and wisshing him death.

Doctors did not believe and also had no knowledge how to operate such case. Soon after that the man commited suicide. It is said to be written as a normal case in some book at that time.

I always wonder if that could be true.
The Roman god Janus comes to us as a powerful metaphor though it may have foundation in the deformaties of individuals like those below. Janus is also used as an icon for a British collection of international cinema classics - the Janus Collection. Truely great films: http://www.janusfilms.com/

A recent case: Robert Owen 'Bob' Melvin...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxix_1v5DeM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZKOIrCTH64

http://www.phreeque.com/robert_milwin.html

Maybe the one you are thinking about is Edward Mordake:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Mordrake

http://thehumanmarvels.com/125/from-the ... /deformity

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Yes, it was the Edward Mordake I was talking about. The article which I was reading also contained black and white very unclear photo believed to be of him.

The case of the first man is really extraordinary too.
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Merowingg wrote:Yes, it was the Edward Mordake I was talking about. The article which I was reading also contained black and white very unclear photo believed to be of him.

The case of the first man is really extraordinary too.
That photo was of a wax works museum sculpture of him like the ones they do for those "Ripley's Believe It or Not" tourist attractions. They have one in Fisherman's Wharf in San Fran. Fun to visit. :3 I used to look at "Ripley's" books as a kid for both the story oddities and his drawings of them. To this day I still like 'em. :)

http://www.ripleys.com/

And Robert Ripley, the artist, globe trotting adventurer, who started it all. Quite a life he lived:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ripley's_Believe_It_or_Not!
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I understand now.

"and other oddities" in the title, what does it reffer to?
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~ Oddities as in that while I make a point of not violating the WZ story canon, I do introduce tropes that many will find odd for game fan fiction.

~ Oddities as in I make no effort to emmulate the WZ visual style. Others are doing it better than I ever could. But I do some blending that likely comes across as odd.

~ Oddities as in my core interest in changing some fundamental WZ GPMs is judged as such by a number hardcore MP players. I believe those new GPMs would bust open the game to a far greater audience without violating Pumpkin's original design goals and, in fact, would be realizing what they were curtailed from bringing to full fruition.

What I'm working on now for my next posting will be illustrative of all 3 of those "oddities": story trope, visual style blending and new GPM.... all rolled-up into an odd illustration. ;)

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A prelude to mull over as I work on my next illustration oddity.

Been following DARPA's Deep Green project since 2008. It is now in its Phase 3 trial.

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/dar ... een-03497/

It has been my direct inspiration for an MK V Commander, MK IV Synaptic Link, new Commander GPMs and new Commander UI.

THIS is 21st Century warfare.

With a 22nd Century tech war machine at your disposal why would you fight like you were stuck in a 19th century time warp, maneuvering uncoordinated, and massed, in monolithic frontline battlespace?

Anyway, I've conceptually adapted "Deep Green" to the non-simulation game of WZ. I'll provide more details l8r.

For now the attatched DARPA image and above link provide some clues that you may find stimulating to ponder... or not.
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Rman on many of your works i see "moro" the camufage, you know, colours pattern. Do you like it?

Last screen is cool, but I feel a school spirit of showing things there. I mean like encyclopaedia. I wonder what would make it not so schoolish. I also would love see it dynamic :)

Here I have cool animation for you :) Tell me if you like it. Watch carefully :) really cool :)

The title is "Rh'a the Machines Rebellion"

I need this "motivation protocol" for my studying right now ;)

http://www.joemonster.org/filmy/50613/R_ha_Bunt_Maszyn
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MaNGusT posted a link last month here:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10578
Rman Virgil Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:54 pm wrote:.

Very impressive all the way around. And smart in all his choices of what to portray, in PoV angles, transitions, sequencing and pacing. Frankly i think it's superior in every way to most of the movies the Sci Fi channel has been producing over the years. Also, a great example of the power of a film short. Hope he has much success in Hollywood and is not chewed up by the suit commitee, deep money pockets, who like to think their economic sense qualifies them to dictate aesthetics to artists. Thanks for sharing. :)
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But glad you brought it up here Mero. :) Maybe some missed its initial mention and will now see it and thats a good thing. :3

It also serves to point out the riveting potential of Machinima as a visual storytelling art form on its own besides it's use to make compelling campaign cut-scene cinematics.

This reminds me that the following will help tremendously in the case of making artful WZ Machinima:

Camera moves (by aubergine » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:34am)

viewtopic.php?f=35&t=10427

And when Art Revolution artists get to Cyborgs - that too will make a huge diff in what can be done.

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On a related note.....

My main pastime right now is working on anim film short based on an episode from a Sci Fi thriller novel I've been writing that takes place in the year 2025. One of the main characters is a woman and she is what is called an anti-heroin and a mastermind a la Moriarity. The film short focuses on her and one of the horrible acts she feels compelled to perpetrate for what she sees as a greater good, the means justified by the ends.

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Mero, could you expand a little more on the following. I'm not entirely sure about your meaning:
Rman on many of your works i see "moro" the camufage, you know, colours pattern. Do you like it?

Last screen is cool, but I feel a school spirit of showing things there. I mean like encyclopaedia. I wonder what would make it not so schoolish. I also would love see it dynamic.
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Ah, I thought I brought something new. I will type in his thread too then :3

Yes of course I am explaining. It might be due to the fact that I am more and more tired and I type in quite a rush lately. Sometimes I start topics not connected to a thread or speak very abstract things out of the blue, yes I know that too.

At the very beginning of my paraphrasing I would like to ask you if you wanted the picture of the marine look like a encyclopaedia picture, with arrows pointing and explaining everything. Whenever yes or no, I stated that it reminds me of encyclopaedia on your preview, and I asked myself if it is good thing, and maybe some actions to change this association would be good.

I also said I would like to see your screen in movement. Something like discovery description, but cool with energy, appropriate music, sounds, we say no to encyclopaedia again ;) I wondered how it would look like.

Finally I asked do you like this camouflage, camo pattern. I mean jacket trousers with this army pattern as I think it appears on many of your screens.

I also bring a personal experience about camouflage clothes. Years and years ago, we were running through a wood with friends, playing soldiers. I was one of the happy ones to have my own camouflage clothes including cool hat. We were shooting toy guns, it was 6, 8, or 12 shots of sound and sound only our guns could carry. It made a shot, a little bit of smoke and that is all. But still imagine how cool it was for us :) all the guns had this revolver mechanism, so you put a circle of those sound bullet into a gun, even if it was a pistol, but with hidden revolver mechanisms. I admit some replicas were really cool.

But what I wanted to say, I remember that by accident I run accros an opponen guy. I got scared but I authomatically aimed at him. Imafine my surprise. He was about four metres from me, and he did not see me :) The wood was not very thick here and I was not even dodging. He wasnt looking at me directly but I was obviously almost in front of him. when I happily said "now die" he jumped a little being scared. Then I realised how powerful camo is.

Here we had quite clear rules when somebody died. We simply almost always knew if we hit someone or not, even if imaginary. And a victim if in not very obvious situation, always admitted. We were all friends so we had no lying like - no you missed.

I also remember some crazy actions like, I and my friends have cornered one guy. And I had two pistols and I was shooting from both of them every like 2 or 3 seconds to make it imposibble for the other guy to move, while my friend was sneaking around. I remember that the guy shouted I am crazy, the reason was that the "clips" for our guns were not necessarily very cheap. And not many shot in series.

Also in my city we had this games. I remember once a guy run onto me, and I point and start to shot from my revolver, but it turned out i have no bullets after the last action. He got scared for one sec, and when we realised what happened, he started to point at me, and I begun to run then behind the corner. It was like on a comedy ;) It was also fun as some people sometimes passed by, so we like agents hid our guns in bloues, jackets and so on.

It was a garages area, behind our block of flats. And here in poland simple citizen cannot hava a weapin. So no police and things like that happened. In our society people just knew we have toys. I believe in some countries we would be shot by police or a gan member ;)

Long story while I dring coffe and listen to warzone music before yet another wave of studying. I hope I did not bore you to death. If i handle bad here tell me Rman, or PM me and I shall change :)

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