garantiertnicht's maps [2]

[garantiertnicht]

Insel
An Map for Long Multiplayer-Games

Recommended Teams: 2v2 (AABB) and 1v1 (A--B)
Player: 4
Oil/P: 8
Scavangers: Yes

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1.1.1:
* Fix a bug, the Users lost Synch at multiple Versions of this Map at Multiplayer

4c-Insel_v1-1-1.wz

ScavPlatz
An Map with team-Bases for short or medium Games

Recommended Teams: 2v2 (AABB)
Player: 4
Oil/P: 12
Scavangers: Yes

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4c-ScavPlatz_v1.wz

License

If you want to edit my maps, you have to ask me. I'll be answer it with yes and give you additional infos. Please name the origin designer if you publish an edited map!

CC-BY-SA-3.0 + GPLv2

[Andrie]

Looks good I will try it.

[Iluvalar]

Bad design (and so frequent). The oil distribution is just broken...

One player will take control of the center and suddenly have so much power... The very narrow paths make the central position under 21 tiles per power ratio frontiers which will make the center easily defendable for the dominating player.

On the other hand, the narrow path also make the defenders under the 21 tiles per power ratio rule. Which will make the dominating player unable to attack and finish them.

Causing a stall situation of 40 minutes during which the dominating player play "alone". Research in his corner while the other 3 wait to be destroyed and lose anyway... The losing player slowly put most of efforts in walls, seeing their weapons become more and more obsolete until the center player come with gauss cannons and brake trough that walls...


I dont want to discourage you of making map or nothing . But if you want to see your maps actually being played, you will need to think longer and come with better and more original "map flow".

[sg1efc]

Thanks a lot Garantiertnicht, going to try it soon.

[Giani]

Bad design (and so frequent). The oil distribution is just broken...

One player will take control of the center and suddenly have so much power... The very narrow paths make the central position under 21 tiles per power ratio frontiers which will make the center easily defendable for the dominating player.

On the other hand, the narrow path also make the defenders under the 21 tiles per power ratio rule. Which will make the dominating player unable to attack and finish them.

Causing a stall situation of 40 minutes during which the dominating player play "alone". Research in his corner while the other 3 wait to be destroyed and lose anyway... The losing player slowly put most of efforts in walls, seeing their weapons become more and more obsolete until the center player come with gauss cannons and brake trough that walls...


I dont want to discourage you of making map or nothing . But if you want to see your maps actually being played, you will need to think longer and come with better and more original "map flow".

True. And the narrow paths make the game longer, even if we would have an awesome pathfinding, because of the units that go to repair and other reasons.

[Merowingg]

Iluvalar be careful

When I rated only few maps in the past addons, i mad very long descriptions, while some happen to write rates only.

Well I thought I was great to put so much effort into expressing what is good and bad about a map.. well I wos so wrong I was told I may happen to discourage people, and my extended books of knowledge were reduced.

I was told to encourage, instead of discourage.. so how if I cannot say what I feel (I and I only) about a map, without possibly hurting someone?

Let's imagine.

Mero - Hello Sir, I would be obliged if you could possibly reduce oil from 17 to 16 each base, it may be far better doue to the forum, players, map, game nature.

Sir - How dare you! it is my map, did you want to offend me? humiliate me? do you think you are the best?

Well without some sort of judgement.. it is impossible to help in any way..

The best thing is.. the user I was reduced my comment on, was the one I chose because he had great potential, and yet, I think he simply told important people I am bad

And I simply wandet to help him most..

Off topic I know, theoretically to sum up,

Sir making a fast glance at the preview only and from my friends speech I can only so far advice you to put more hear into your work, and observe others

At the same time, express yourself!

Good luck!

[Iluvalar]

It's true, I'm always more about pointing bad things than good things. Peoples that know me know that I don't waste time with my precious complaints about everything. So the mere fact that I 'm here complaining is a recognition of the potential. Doesn't it ?

[Andrie]

Iluvalar is just giving him some advise but don't delete this map, if you start to dislike it.

[garantiertnicht]

But i can understand some of his thinks.

Now the Scav's Base have 6 oil lesser. I played yesterday with my dad and we've 25.000 and 26.000. Its to hight! I've add more Balance too.

I note here, that this map isn't make for 1-1-1-1! Its make for 2-2 or 1--1.

Than it works just fine.

[Merowingg]

Iluvalar I have quite the same, what is more I was happy and proud I share my tips and wisdom

After that I decided I will give advices, but I will never share my tips, and techniques, at least till I meet appropriate person checked with time.

I played yesterday with my dad

I am happy to see this sentence, it is great to have a father who participates in sons modern activities. What is more, many would be embarrassed to share such thing.

Good luck Sir!

[garantiertnicht]

Iluvalar I have quite the same, what is more I was happy and proud I share my tips and wisdom

After that I decided I will give advices, but I will never share my tips, and techniques, at least till I meet appropriate person checked with time.

I played yesterday with my dad

I am happy to see this sentence, it is great to have a father who participates in sons modern activities. What is more, many would be embarrassed to share such thing.

Good luck Sir!

The map I've done self without advice. We just have play it

[Iluvalar]

But i can understand some of his thinks.

Now the Scav's Base have 6 oil lesser. I played yesterday with my dad and we've 25.000 and 26.000. Its to hight! I've add more Balance too.

I note here, that this map isn't make for 1-1-1-1! Its make for 2-2 or 1--1.

Than it works just fine.

I'm sorry, but this is still totally insufficient. The central team will have 6/8 of the oil ressource. With that huge amount of oil, they could control and hold a frontier up to 60 tiles wides. But now it is 4 tiles wide.

I'm sorry, I dont know what kind of game experience you tried to create with that map. Maybe just trying some original experience... But you will soon discover that it doesn't create the games you were expecting (or else you expect some silly games ).

There is no quick fix about that one. Other than learning from your error more about the choke points and the map unit flow .

[garantiertnicht]

There's a new Version that fix a bug that players who use difficult versions lost the sync.
That Update is recommend to all Multiplayer hosters!

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Now there is a new map out, ScavPlatz. Try it!

[sg1efc]

There's a new Version that fix a bug that players who use difficult versions lost the sync.
That Update is recommend to all Multiplayer hosters!

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Now there is a new map out, ScavPlatz. Try it!

Danke schön Garantiertnicht.