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NRSpV116
I didnt found any better visual help than this one : The arrows point a "better" weapon. You can jump 2 arrows and still have good effects.
I tried to reflect that in the tech tree. The first 6 weapons are the ring of 6.
Then you have the cycle of 3 "Missiles,Laser, Quark" that repeat all the time.

NRSpV118
*bug fix : I was scaling the mortar ROF before adding the howy to them. The mortars will fire slower than in V117 but still faster than v112 (and standard)
*Lot of small fine tuning in the weapon lines as well.
*And in the armor amount. after removing the vtol weapon (always more brutal) in the mean damage equation.
*Removal of the nexus and infinity lab again. If you are wise enough to build them, you are wise enough to build an omega lab and make a research upgrade with it instead. Sadly, Noobs are getting mad with those speed labs.
*Increased virus tower (still inneficient in 1v1, but do no wait 8 player of equal skill to be decent)
*Reduced flagship price. If you really know how to use it and accept the micromanagement task, it gonna worth it.

Iluvalar wrote: NRSpV118
*And in the armor amount. after removing the vtol weapon (always more brutal) in the mean damage equation.

What do you mean?

I Need this mod!!!!!

hey people!
first of all, i read the mod description and this sounds epic, good job!

i`d like to know if there's already a version for the newest beta version (i think it's 3.1) i couldn't find a link but it's possible that i just didnt see it

Giani wrote:

Iluvalar wrote: NRSpV118
*And in the armor amount. after removing the vtol weapon (always more brutal) in the mean damage equation.

What do you mean?

The armor of the heavy bodies is fixed on the mean damage of all weapons. But the vtol are always more brutal then their ground counterpart, I just ignore them now to have better balance for most weapons.

xxFECxx : sadly the beta version is still unstable on my computer and I dont play it for now. When my experience will be better in 3.1, i'll probably make the jump.

V120 is coming soon... but someone asked for that one :

Is it possible to get latest NRS as a stand alone mod? Your maps are too tailored and a little too earnest to play - you know, rather C&C.

@Zydonk : use the latest mapmod that fit your oil preference as a mod, they work well.

I dont understand what you really mean by "earnest" even with a dictionary...

NRSpV120
*Economical victory if you reach enough power production to be equivalent to the 8 bases together in interest after the first 10 minutes.
*Cheater autodestruction (and double lose) if you reach the same level before .
*Economical non-victory if you have debt to the bank when you eliminate the opponents, you will be asked to repay first. Please, as an host leave a bit of time to the players for that.
**Some players were getting the very bad habit to bank to a ridiculous amount like there was no tomorrow. Now there will be a tomorrow so they will have the time to bankrupt .
**That debt will be repaid when you have your victory message and the bank will refuse to loan anymore. So if you want to save a teamate, it gonna be with your own power.

Iluvalar wrote:@Zydonk : use the latest mapmod that fit your oil preference as a mod, they work well.

I dont understand what you really mean by "earnest" even with a dictionary...

Will try that - curious to see how it plays on familiar maps.

As for "earnest": I was surprised by the word myself. But I think "rat maze" too unkind a description. There's a plodding quality to the map, do this and then do that; eg enemy bases are staggered in distance from the player base, to indicate that one attacks the closest and then the next one and so on. The idea of making three of the bases approachable only by air introduced a tedious element into the game - make a zillion vtols and then carpet bomb into oblivion - which led me to abandon the game.

Be aware that adding frustrations to a game is usually an indication that the progger is working for his pension!

But you reintroduced the lancer bunker(!) - all is forgiven because you did that...

ps the map is beautifully made.

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If I may hazard an irresistable urge to put it figuratively with a distinctly Wildean turn of phrase...

Earnest T. Pettibone, now and then, overestimated the importance of his cunning calculus to the detriment of simply enjoying a cucumber sandwich in the company of a charming lady of mystery.

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zydonk wrote:

Iluvalar wrote:@Zydonk : use the latest mapmod that fit your oil preference as a mod, they work well.

I dont understand what you really mean by "earnest" even with a dictionary...

Will try that - curious to see how it plays on familiar maps.

As for "earnest": I was surprised by the word myself. But I think "rat maze" too unkind a description. There's a plodding quality to the map, do this and then do that; eg enemy bases are staggered in distance from the player base, to indicate that one attacks the closest and then the next one and so on. The idea of making three of the bases approachable only by air introduced a tedious element into the game - make a zillion vtols and then carpet bomb into oblivion - which led me to abandon the game.

Be aware that adding frustrations to a game is usually an indication that the progger is working for his pension!

But you reintroduced the lancer bunker(!) - all is forgiven because you did that...

ps the map is beautifully made.

Oh... I'm sorry, anarchy is a duel map : pos 0 vs pos 1 . Anything else is a bonus.

Iluvalar wrote:@Zydonk : use the latest mapmod that fit your oil preference as a mod, they work well.

I dont understand what you really mean by "earnest" even with a dictionary...

NRSpV120
*Economical victory if you reach enough power production to be equivalent to the 8 bases together in interest after the first 10 minutes.
*Cheater autodestruction (and double lose) if you reach the same level before .

I used to like your mod...

Giani wrote: I used to like your mod...

Could you be more specific ? What you don't like anymore ? what is the link with V120 exactly ?

Iluvalar wrote: Oh... I'm sorry, anarchy is a duel map : pos 0 vs pos 1 . Anything else is a bonus.

Duel map for 8 players, three of which are sequestered from the fray? I don't understand this.

Also: how on earth can the mod version be sooooo different to the mapmod version? My first impulse was to crank up my old EL-9300 and work up an evaluation prog. It is sooooooooo geeky!!!!!! Is it a mp mod? There are no defense structures - to prevent turtling? But why such a weirdly complex research offering when mp's last no more than an hour?

I have read posts in this topic over the months, but nothing I gleaned there has prepared me for the sheer strangeness of your mod. Give me at least a mg bunker and I will try again...

Iluvalar wrote:

Giani wrote: I used to like your mod...

Could you be more specific ? What you don't like anymore ? what is the link with V120 exactly ?

The mod is VERY complicated now (By what i see in this thread, maybe I should play it to see if it is) and the economycal victory.