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Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 21:22
by Terminator
what is the difference between this build & master-20101024. Is here no new netcode ? or this build have everything that master-20101024 has ?
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 22:01
by little jo
Hello,
i updated my Ubuntu ppa for 3.0-beta1 :
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:littel-jo/warzone-dev
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install warzone2100
If you have already install the pre-3.0, you can't update directly (i made a mistake of notation). You have to type :
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sudo apt-get remove warzone2100
sudo apt-get autoremove
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install warzone2100
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 25 Oct 2010, 23:54
by dmdilks
Safety0ff wrote:dmdilks wrote:I'm still having problem when they tell you updates or what you have to do in the beginning of each level. The screen will blink and than you have to go and read it yourself. It will not display on the screen or hear it.
If you already had the videos, then you have to copy them over to the new folder/directory, if you didn't have them you need to download them from
http://wz2100.net/download
That took care of that problem and I thought maybe that is why the game is crashing. This time after I save the game and went to continue it played the video and than it CTD.
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 00:01
by sg1efc
Thanks again everyone.
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 00:11
by Black Project
effigy wrote:I did a skirmish on Rush2 this morning to check out defense structures. I found that a hardpoint can shoot over a wall infront of it, and a line of bunkers infront of that wall. I think that's only nearly sufficient.
I can live with a hardpoint not shooting through/over a hardpoint, same for bunker, etc. What seems incorrect to me is that towers won't shoot over hardpoints. Towers are weaker than hardpoints (ie., A lancer tower has 2/3 (66%) the HP of a lancer hardpoint) which has me wondering what purpose they'll serve in the future if they can't be clustered? What advantage will they have? The cost difference to build is disproportionate when compared to the drop in HP ($150 vs. $175 (86% of hardpoint cost)).
Please allow towers to shoot over hardpoints, remove them, or lower their build cost.
I got a simple solution: Get rid of this new targeting code.
The intriguing images that effigy posted only proofs that the new targeting code will make the defenses really suck and a waste of power in MP matches, plus making a PITA to rebalance them with this new code.
I'm really disappointed about this. I can't proof if that was intentional or not, but let's be honest: Warzone is a fast-paced action game, not a damn war simulation.
Sorry about the complaints.
BP
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 04:48
by Mr_E
yeah it's really annoying with the wall thing; i did my usual strategy which involves a lot of defenses and the bunkers couldn't fire over / through the tank traps so plz remove this new targeting thing or whatever it is...
and i like the scroll thing you've added to the build / research / design / intelligence displays, makes it easier to view what all i've got... and make it to where the horizontal "windows" can scroll as well...
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 05:31
by Buginator
Terminator wrote:what is the difference between this build & master-20101024. Is here no new netcode ? or this build have everything that master-20101024 has ?
This build is based on 2.3 code + new terrain + other stuff.
Only master has the newer netcode.
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 09:49
by NoQ
Black Project wrote:I got a simple solution: Get rid of this new targeting code.
Noooo!!!11 Those targeting bugs were uuuugly!
I could agree on removing the part of it that concerns shooting through buildings, but not shooting through terrain.
Shooting-through-ground bugs totally destroy the amazing idea of really real terrain heightmap.
P.S.
Buginator: Thanks again for working on the cliff rendering (!!), but i have
a little more feedback on this issue
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 13:59
by NoQ
A.I. bots tend to build a lot of sensor towers around oil derricks.
Also, this looks-like-division-by-zero with towers on cliffs still remains.
By the way: we've tested it in multiplayer with Mero, and it worked! It even didn't lag a lot! (:
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 19:02
by aubergine
I raised a bug about the bots having a radar fetish:
http://developer.wz2100.net/ticket/2249 -- please comment on it and attach savegames if you're seeing same bug.
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As for targetting code, I love being able to hide behind mountains, etc. However, agree it might be better if weapons could shoot through buildings, at least for now, while the code is tuned to deal with issues mentioned in this topic.
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 22:33
by NoQ
I have a somewhat stranger targeting code issue: This yellow scourge tower doesn't shoot enemy black oil derricks.
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/9239 ... 207omg.jpg
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 23:07
by Dalton
Some weapons require a minimum distance from a target to fire.
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 26 Oct 2010, 23:55
by NoQ
Yay! I see (: Thanks (:
I blindly believed it was only about artillery (:
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One more thing i wanted to discuss here. I'm glad the minimap is fixed now. But i don't like the way it's anti-aliased. I'd prefer inaccurate but crisp and clear not-anti-aliased minimap. At least building and unit dots should be crisp. Probably cliffs and water boundaries also.
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 00:46
by cybersphinx
hao wrote:One more thing i wanted to discuss here. I'm glad the minimap is fixed now. But i don't like the way it's anti-aliased. I'd prefer inaccurate but crisp and clear not-anti-aliased minimap. At least building and unit dots should be crisp. Probably cliffs and water boundaries also.
The fixed radar will not be blurred on full zoom steps (one mouse wheel click is ±0.25 zoom steps).
Re: 3.0-beta 1 is released!
Posted: 27 Oct 2010, 01:33
by NoQ
Ah ha ha, i could've never guessed what does this option do (:
I think this should be made more intuitive, but i can't come up with a better option label right now
