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That's my new big (192x192) 8-player map avaliable both as low-power (50 oils total) and high-power (almost 5x oil) version (8c-MountainLake2 is high-power). I still think it needs some polishing aka eyecandy, but i'm out of ideas now, so just feel free to comment what we have

You have to both repel your two neighbors and use hovers to fight for the central island. Controlling the center does not only give you extra oil, but also allows you to get to these highgrounds near the enemy bases (and harass their oil derricks that are pretty close to it). That is, this map is somehow designed for no-VTOL games.

upd: now with gateways!

It's a very interesting map. Very interesting! Thanks

not bad.. But This map a not for ai players.

Boris wrote:not bad.. But This map a not for ai players.

Skirmish AI is working fine, are you talking about MP AI?

Just uploaded a high-power version. It has 20 oils in base, so you'd still want to fight for some more in the beginning.

Thanks for your replies!

I agree: The AI has enough space to build up his base, but that's pretty much the best thing i can say about him. After all, this map is "inspired by Squared"

This looks like an improved take on the TokenRing map. I invite you to submit it to Addons.

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hao, just a quick suggestion.

If you want the A.I. players to build defenses in particular spots you need to lay Gateways in those areas. Right now you have not placed any. Placing GWs cannily will make the A.I. Players more challenging for the human players to fight against.

Your map crafting is well done and it clearly shows your care and attention to details. I prefer to play 2 and 4 player maps but I can still appreciate a good 8 player map.

- Regards, RV

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The map has very interesting shape

I like the base locations and general look

Details are visible which is important too

Good job man

Go on creating

This looks like an improved take on the TokenRing map. I invite you to submit it to Addons.

Yeah, i've read your comment and decided to make a new one (: But this one has more complicated topology already.

If you want the A.I. players to build defenses in particular spots you need to lay Gateways in those areas.

Hmm, ok, i've updated the 8c-MountainLake2.wz, and now it has some gateways. Is there any easy way of copying the gateways to the other map? (grepping/sedding/awking through the files in the .wz archive is an easy way; repainting them by hand is not).

Details are visible which is important too

Thanks Mero Yeah, i also hate these invisible details

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Rman Virgil wrote:If you want the A.I. players to build defenses in particular spots you need to lay Gateways in those areas.

hao wrote:Hmm, ok, i've updated the 8c-MountainLake2.wz, and now it has some gateways. Is there any easy way of copying the gateways to the other map? (grepping/sedding/awking through the files in the .wz archive is an easy way; repainting them by hand is not).

No. There is no copy-pasta function for GWs. I've looked at your map closely & 16 GWs is all you need place. 10 minutes work, tops.

- RV

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It is a nice map to play on. Gateways for the AIs would make it even nicer

All right, we have lots of gateways now, and i've fixed one broken tile. But i still see some strange problems here. First of all, why don't some of the bots take the oils? I'm not talking about the ones on the islands, but they don't even take the oils between the bases I also wonder if there's any guide on effective gateway placing, since the original AI doesn't seem to use all of them.

I had a quick look, and in trunk, all the AI go for the oil right away. It looks like you are not using gateways correctly, though. The point is to stretch them all the way across bottlenecks on the map - the AI will make openings in the gateways for droids to pass through on its own. You do not need to leave such openings; in fact, this will confuse the AI and make it build rather weird looking defenses.

All right, i've finally fixed the gateways (only on the low-power version), and i think it's time to put it into addons. But the derrick problem still exists (i didn't check out the trunk on it yet).

P.S. a technical question: was it worth waking up the topic after two weeks to say just this much?

hao wrote:P.S. a technical question: was it worth waking up the topic after two weeks to say just this much?

Yeah, that's fine.