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Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 16:05
by marcdl
Hey all. I'm new here-- I've been a massive fan of WZ since it was released on the PS1, and only just found out it was free on PC. I've since been working away at the campaign but something strange happened this morning and just wanted to see if anyone could help explain what happened.

Basically I was on Campaign 2 Beta 6 and had around 1,000 power. I was trying to keep it around that figure while researching and building tanks. Then all of the sudden, I noticed I had 98,000. Next mission, I still have tons of power and it's kind of ruined the campaign a little. Is this a bug or it supposed to happen on that mission?

Any help would be appreciated.

Cheers

Marc

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 16:22
by BlueMaxima
Oh dear oh dear oh dear, I thought this bug was fixed already.

Zarel, get in here, you have some explaining to do.

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 17:08
by stiv
Any help would be appreciated.
It would be helpful to know what version of the game you are playing.

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 17:17
by marcdl
2.3.0 - just noticed there is a new update. I'll upgrade :D

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 19 Jun 2010, 23:53
by Zarel
BlueMaxima wrote:Oh dear oh dear oh dear, I thought this bug was fixed already.

Zarel, get in here, you have some explaining to do.
To be exact, there's more than one bug that causes a jump to max power. I fixed one of them, but the other one's been broken since 2.1.x or so, and we still have no idea what causes it, and so it hasn't been fixed.

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 20 Jun 2010, 23:54
by marcdl
Fair enough. It's certainly made the second half of campaign two easier. I assume power is reset at the start of campaign 3?

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 00:05
by Zarel
marcdl wrote:Fair enough. It's certainly made the second half of campaign two easier. I assume power is reset at the start of campaign 3?
Nope.

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 21 Jun 2010, 21:47
by Nuzurame
Is it a bug ? I thought that the Alpha base is sending me it's generated power ? or something like this :lol2:

It happened to me too, first time on the Beta 2, and second time on the Gamma 2.

But there is ANOTHER bug this way:
On Gamma 1st mission, after completing last Beta, i got 16 000 power (I am always playing on normal difficulty), but when i saved right after the Gamma 1st mission started and turned off the game, i got 0 power when loaded the game later.
To get my power back, I needed to load the last Beta mission, complete it and then advance to gamma in one session. I mean - without turning off the game.
I was using v2.3.0 all the time.

Umm, anyone understand what i mean ?
I hope it helps.

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 22 Jun 2010, 10:18
by Emdek
Nuzurame wrote:Is it a bug ? I thought that the Alpha base is sending me it's generated power ? or something like this :lol2:

It happened to me too, first time on the Beta 2, and second time on the Gamma 2.
If there was "Power transferred" message and it was 5000 then it was not a bug. ;-)
Nuzurame wrote:On Gamma 1st mission, after completing last Beta, i got 16 000 power (I am always playing on normal difficulty), but when i saved right after the Gamma 1st mission started and turned off the game, i got 0 power when loaded the game later.
Yes, I can confirm this bug. I've checked using my recent savegame from campaign (I'm always saving at least after each mission) and power level was 0. However when I've played it last (first ;-)) time, as you said, in one "session", then it was for sure 16000 (it's easy to remember, you can build during first five critical minutes or not ;-))...

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 06:11
by Buginator
Emdek wrote:
Nuzurame wrote:Is it a bug ? I thought that the Alpha base is sending me it's generated power ? or something like this :lol2:

It happened to me too, first time on the Beta 2, and second time on the Gamma 2.
If there was "Power transferred" message and it was 5000 then it was not a bug. ;-)
Nuzurame wrote:On Gamma 1st mission, after completing last Beta, i got 16 000 power (I am always playing on normal difficulty), but when i saved right after the Gamma 1st mission started and turned off the game, i got 0 power when loaded the game later.
Yes, I can confirm this bug. I've checked using my recent savegame from campaign (I'm always saving at least after each mission) and power level was 0. However when I've played it last (first ;-)) time, as you said, in one "session", then it was for sure 16000 (it's easy to remember, you can build during first five critical minutes or not ;-))...
Can you upload those savegames on trac ?

Thanks!

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 10:31
by Emdek
Done:
#1939

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 23 Jun 2010, 12:45
by treska32
Ok another buggy massive boost of power (this time 50000). You can catch it in autosave which you can get here:
http://jump.fm/LHJWE

When will be this "bp";) cheat available?? :P

Is anyone willing to change hex of power as i don't know where to find the right data? please :roll:

Tnx!

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 02:42
by Buginator
Emdek wrote:Done:
#1939
Emdek, I need a savegame before the condition happens, your savegame shows 0, and I don't know what it should have been.

treska32 wrote:Ok another buggy massive boost of power (this time 50000). You can catch it in autosave which you can get here:
http://jump.fm/LHJWE

When will be this "bp";) cheat available?? :P

Is anyone willing to change hex of power as i don't know where to find the right data? please :roll:

Tnx!
Don't use that host, that host blows chunks. Use trac, like Emdek did.

For your issue, I don't see anything wrong, are you using 2.3.1a ?
atlaunch.jpg
after_launch.jpg

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 24 Jun 2010, 09:33
by Emdek
Buginator wrote:
Emdek wrote:Done:
#1939
Emdek, I need a savegame before the condition happens, your savegame shows 0, and I don't know what it should have been.
I've added older one, but you will need to go through whole evacuation stage and for example save it just before start of the last transport and then again after end of the mission (both savegames were done that way).

Re: Just got a massive boost of power?!

Posted: 25 Jun 2010, 17:03
by treska32
When I load my game, i have at the beginning around 18k power and then after 2 or 3 seconds i get 50k boost and i have 68k (as you can see on screenshot, too). I did some tricks with cheats so i had around 18k againg after 15 min or so and there was no timer on the next mission so this is ok.

About version, i have version without a, but as far as i know "a" version was not done for the reason of new power calculation but for other reasons. Am i wrong?

about host I couldn't upload on forum as attachment was bigger than 100kb...

Thank you for your help.