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I think that the cliffs would look nice with some shaded clusters of rock. Hmm, and the mineral layers would certainly look nice

BTW, nice new smileys
~Olrox

edit1: edit2: edit3: There is also the bug - features don't cast shadows. look at the blue bus.

MaNGusT wrote:

wz2100_shot_008.png

Those look real good, IMO. nice work!
Those dark stripes could be removed, I think.
Now we need corner textures and proper rotation for the regular ones.
Really, those will look awesome when we have normal maps and they are placed & rotated correctly!

~Olrox

Olrox wrote:Those dark stripes could be removed, I think.

Which of them? horizontal or vertical?

Olrox wrote:Now we need corner textures and proper rotation for the regular ones.

The corner texture is the same as regular.

MaNGusT wrote:

Olrox wrote:Those dark stripes could be removed, I think.

Which of them? horizontal or vertical?

The horizontal ones, they look like shadows only, not relief.

I mean, we should have corner cliff textures like the current renderer has, so that we can have a smooth transition, and the cracks on the rock are always vertical (like the real cliffs on those photos)

~Olrox

shot 009 (variation 3) is the kind of relief we need. Its just a bit too regular.

got another one for the base texture, thats closer to this veins: http://www.wallpaperweb.org/wallpaper/N ... 8_8299.htm a bit dark perhaps.
Relief missing though.

Those concrete tiles aren't good, they need some serious improvements, IMO. They need cracks, and could be larger also.

~Olrox

Olrox wrote:Those concrete tiles aren't good, they need some serious improvements, IMO. They need cracks, and could be larger also.

original tiles are smaller than mine.
but yes, I will add some cracks later. They seem too clean..

MaNGusT wrote: original tiles are smaller than mine.
but yes, I will add some cracks later. They seem too clean..

Yep, I know, and they're oddly small, they look like internal concrete tiles, or sidewalk concrete tiles - usually external, industrial courtyard concrete tiles are larger, easily more than 2,5x2,5 meters.

Anyway, nevermind me, probably it'll be better if the cliffs are finished before.

Doesn't the new renderer support changing the orientation of particular portions of the texture? (i.e. for the cliff faces)

~Olrox

Olrox wrote:Doesn't the new renderer support changing the orientation of particular portions of the texture?

Nope and It can't be fixed.(it's the problem of the idea of engine).
That is why I like my first cliffs texture - it doesn't need to be rotated.

MaNGusT wrote:

Olrox wrote:Doesn't the new renderer support changing the orientation of particular portions of the texture?

Nope and It can't be fixed.(it's the problem of the idea of engine).
That is why I like my first cliffs texture - it doesn't need to be rotated.

Yep, but it needs some polishing - that pattern you've used needs some manual sharpening, and it seems like we won't have anything shaded unless normal maps are used for terrain as well. Can any dev tell us if that's the plan or not?
It's a pity that the creator of the renderer didn't choose to support rotation, cliffs were bound to have problems this way...

But hey, how roads are used?
Couldn't we have the same texture application system for cliffs? Then, instead of painting a whole road, you paint a whole cliff face (so that the top/bottom direction is perpendicular to the painting line, namely the "cliff face" I'm referring to). Or something like that...

Gonna get some sleep now
~Olrox

Olrox wrote:Yep, but it needs some polishing - that pattern you've used needs some manual sharpening, and it seems like we won't have anything shaded unless normal maps are used for terrain as well. Can any dev tell us if that's the plan or not?

. Terrain can't support normal maps because normal map applies to a whole model only. Can you imagine a texture size of a normal map which we need to apply? This way we can use only a fake relief.

It's a pity that the creator of the renderer didn't choose to support rotation, cliffs were bound to have problems this way...

yeah, that is why all modern RTS games use the old tileset technique but with a new features.

But hey, how roads are used?

roads still use the old tileset technique.

How does texture size relate to tile size anyway, is it per pixels eg 256, or per parts like 1/4 of the texture?

Currently it is hardcoded, see http://developer.wz2100.net/browser/tru ... map.c#L231.