I don't like very much the Scourge Missile in the 2.1 Beta, i only use it to take out tanks, because it's cause less damage than the Lancer and the Tank Killer, and cause almost no damage in bunkers and hardpoints, but it's take a nice advantage of the Lancer and the TK with it's long range shootingArcalane wrote: Like I said in the screenshot thread, I love the way the flamers work now (being stream-fire rather than one pathetic shot from time to time) but in terms of practicality I prefer Railguns (Gauss/Rail, Needler is almost useless), Lasers (Pulse Laz/H. Laz - Plasma fires too slow and is way too inaccurate) and Anti-Tank Missiles (Scourge where available).
I've been using "Thunderbolt Tank Hunter" (I name my units according to purpose - those Mantis flametanks are Incinerator Assault Tanks, etc.) Retaliation Scourge VTOLs to take out enemy commanders and soft targets like power generators or oil silos. 5-10 of these with fully upgraded Scourges can obliterate anything. Are you sure the Lancer/Tank-Killer actually do more damage when fully upgraded compared to a fully-upgraded Scourge?Black Project wrote: I don't kike very much the Scourge Missile in the 2.1 Beta, i only use it to take out tanks, because it's cause less damage than the Lancer and the Tank Killer, and cause almost no damage in bunkers and hardpoints, but it's take a nice advantage of the Lancer and the TK with it's long range shooting
Stopped using those back in 2001 or so. Looked too ugly for my taste.Chojun wrote: Personally I like to stick with the Viper Lassat Wheels.
Lancer, TK, Scourge, mini-pods and all cannons are all atti-tank weapons, they don't work well vs bunkers (use flamers or BB instead). Scourge does not cause less damage than Lancer or TK, in fact it is slightly more powerfull than TK when target is in its long range (16 tiles) and it is as powerfull as Lancer in its short range (5 tiles). But Scourge has almost double the range of TK. So it is a good weapon when used wisely, but it has its achilles's heel: when you attack it from short distance.Black Project wrote: I don't kike very much the Scourge Missile in the 2.1 Beta, i only use it to take out tanks, because it's cause less damage than the Lancer and the Tank Killer, and cause almost no damage in bunkers and hardpoints, but it's take a nice advantage of the Lancer and the TK with it's long range shooting
I don't have the values from 2.1 and too lazy to look them up, but you have to take reload time into account, Scourge is slightly more powerfull than Super Scourge Cyborg.Black Project wrote: The Super Scourge Cyborg causes more damage than the Scourge for tanks (338 against 228), but had less range (1536)
The Scourge is diferent in the 2.1 Beta.Arcalane wrote: I've been using "Thunderbolt Tank Hunter" (I name my units according to purpose - those Mantis flametanks are Incinerator Assault Tanks, etc.) Retaliation Scourge VTOLs to take out enemy commanders and soft targets like power generators or oil silos. 5-10 of these with fully upgraded Scourges can obliterate anything. Are you sure the Lancer/Tank-Killer actually do more damage when fully upgraded compared to a fully-upgraded Scourge?
Interesting, but actually a higher ROF means it reloads faster, yes? So the Scourge is actually in the long run more powerful than the Lancer or TK because it reloads faster between shots, and will continue to do so. Even though it's individual shots are weaker, it's firing much more of them.Black Project wrote:Lancer
Damage:256
ROF:16
TK
Damage:376
ROF:12
Scourge
Damage:228
ROF:40
Yes, the higher ROF your weapon had (Rate-Of-Fire), more faster the reloadingArcalane wrote: Interesting, but actually a higher ROF means it reloads faster, yes?
Like I already said it is not.Black Project wrote: Now in the 2.1 Beta, it's now powerless
Thanks for clarifying. I didn't know how ROF translates to seconds, but that pretty much proves my point - Scourges are superior! ;DTroman wrote:When fully upgraded Scourge does 165 points of damage per second on average against a tracked tank. Lancer does 73, TK does 129. Plus Scourge has a much higher range than TK and Lancer. I hope that clarifies it.
