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Re: Merowingg's Maps

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Simple fact of the matter is that Warzone 2100 is GPLv2 licensed. GPLv2 is a viral license - that means that all derivative works and add-ons must also be GPLv2 licensed. Maps are add-ons, thus all maps must be under GPLv2 (or equivalent) otherwise they are in breech of the Warzone 2100 license.
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Aubergine : it doesn't work like that. I believe the maps would be considered as content in any legal case.

You can open a text file of any given license in an open source editor ,save and distribute them. (Thanks god)
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Emm. When you open a non-GPL picture in the GIMP, it doesn't violate the GPL license, i guess. Even if the image is posted on gimp.org. Why would a warzone2100 map be forced to be GPL?
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Re: Merowingg's Maps

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If I'm not mistaken, the maps contain elements that require warzone 2100 in order to run. They also use some assets and data formats that are derived from WZ. So they cannot be treated as content. I could be wrong though.
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Re: Merowingg's Maps

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when you upload your maps to addons page you have agree to use one of the 3 license options and Merowingg has uploaded this particular map and many others and give them CC-BY-SA-3.0 + GPLv2 .
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Merowingg wrote:Hello :)

They call me Mero :)

I am sorry buy I do not allow any of my maps to be modified. I decided it will be so very long time ago when I was beginning to make maps.

I am sorry and I hope you will not be angry at me. Seven oils is not much in this case indeed, but it may make you exercise playing skill and gaining the city step by step may be a good challenge.

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Mero
no problem i understand it is your work after all
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Re: Merowingg's Maps

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Zydonk
and yet you have played merry hell with other people's maps?
Please explain this to me as I am very curious what is it about, it may be that I do not understand something as it happened before.

My another question was, was there a licence selection in FlaMe 1,02, and then in FlaMe 1,12? as this was my jump, another one was Flame 1,19 and then almost version by version.

I also would like to know if the changes I made (the unticked) boxes, are visible for you? I stated in all maps submitted in addons that I wand all the maps go to hell with me if I go to hell.

I would be very happy to know where I can reassign the maps which were accidentally made in a licence I didn't want them to be.

Finally which licence limits the possibility to mess with a map of a creator the most?

I also suggest a sticky thread in Mapping, Modding section where not only all the licences will be explained in a way a person like me will understand and will be easy and obvious to find, but also those boxes where one is necessary to be ticked and the second which is optional will be explained easily in consequences.

I do know there is many versions, as we can see above of what they mean, and not many know much about them. I am sure you have a friend in Law who may explain it to you, and maybe paraphraze it? in a simple people friendly way. If i offended someone I am sorry but i consider me to be very simple in terms of law.

And what for the licences here as in fact anyone can do anything with what we do?

There was this topic Lav started for me, and there as I could see, and I cannot find it now, was some answer which in fact are untrue or not entirely true.

I am happy to contribute but I would like to know this @$%^$$#### things, what they mean when I select them..
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Berg wrote:This is the human readable summary http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/

This is the full license http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by- ... /legalcode
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ and http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/legalcode rather, yours are the nc (non-commercial) variants.

Addons does only specify licenses that allow derivative works, if you don't want that, don't put your maps there.
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Berg thank you, although even those are not entirely clear for me.. but I know it is there, I need to read it few times at different time space I think.

cybersphinx thanx, although
rather, yours are the nc (non-commercial) variants.
I dont understand, as those are the same link as Berg's?
Addons does only specify licenses that allow derivative works, if you don't want that, don't put your maps there.
Nah, all is good, dont get me wrong, I just want to know what I am standing on, although I should ask a long time ago.

So let me ask again as I am trying to put it that way.. my way.. whot those licenses give me? and after all, all can do all they want with all work we put there yes?
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Re: Merowingg's Maps

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I never understood why someone would make stuff for the community of an open source project and then state that they don't want their stuff to be open source. Very strange behaviour.
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Merowingg wrote:I dont understand, as those are the same link as Berg's?
The differ by three characters:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
So let me ask again as I am trying to put it that way.. my way.. whot those licenses give me? and after all, all can do all they want with all work we put there yes?
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Attribution — You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work).

Share Alike — If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one.
What part of that is unclear to you?
Edit: Polish version, if that's easier for you: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/deed.pl

What they give you? Hm... appreciation by those who want to build upon your work? The main reason we only accept those are basically what aubergine said; those licenses allow others to improve/fix your maps, and us to include them in the main game.
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Ok thank you very much, all seems to be clear now.
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Merowingg wrote:Zydonk
and yet you have played merry hell with other people's maps?
Please explain this to me as I am very curious what is it about, it may be that I do not understand something as it happened before.
squared, for instance - though you sought to deny it.

While my maps are open to modification, I demur if I think the modifier would be better served by either creating his own maps from scratch or working from the original Pumpkin maps - which would better teach him than mucking around with mine.

You should be flattered that anyone thinks your maps are worth reworking - I am.
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Zydonk.. but I did not use your squared in my life.. I have never even opened it with FlaMe, but maybe once, to see how big it is as I wanted mine to be bigger and I did.
You should be flattered that anyone thinks your maps are worth reworking - I am.
And I do not know what it is about too.. I am very happy to be told anything more except thanx, or cool map, which is also always nice to hear.

Sometimes I have again a feeling that someone is impersonating me..

At least half od my work should be reworked if it was to be a Warzone canon friendly, but as I was many times pesistent, and probably I will be, I very often do a map, and maintain it, as I desired it to be, no how it should be in accordance to the cannon. Even if it at its very beginning as a form is to be doomed because it looks this way and not the other.
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