The Doc's Bio Lab for Scav Experiments - & other oddities.

[Rman Virgil]

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Plain tutti-fruity / vanilla, Part A. Had to make it 2 pages and I also used a little of my modus from the more sophisticated fancy shmancy timeline I'm concurently working on. Part B of this version is not yet ready and will have to wait for posting till tomorro night as RL has intervened and I can't work on it anymore today (an opportunity to jam with musician friends at a barbie I cannot forego ). In the meanwhile, have at Part A. I only request you state your reasoning for adding to or amending. I would also suggest making changes directly as it's pretty easy to work with unlike the fancy shmancy one. Intentional that, following the simplifie course. But if you just wanna describe in a post for me to reflect in the next iteration, that's fine too.
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[Merowingg]

Rman I am 9999 visitor !!!

I will answer the post soon

[Rman Virgil]

Rman I am 9999 visitor !!!

Guess there's some interest in oddities.

I will answer the post soon

Really Mero, don't sweat it. Sooner than l8r, I'll only be around on Sunday's anyway. Gotta wood-shed a whole lot more with story, music and art the rest of the week and visiting / posting is gonna have to take the hit in the time / attention trade-off.

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BTW... I put a colossal, and obvious, faux pas in the time line. A whopper, is the term.
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[aubergine]

Saw this and thought of the pre-collapse era: http://logica.ugent.be/philosophica/fulltexts/26-2.pdf

Edit: Good essay. But Illich misses one very key destructive, and insidious, economic dynamic: corporate externalization of costs.

Corporate externalisation of cost is a very important factor, but from my perspective I see it as more of a symptom of capitalism rather than a root problem. Capitalism by its very nature is designed to ignore any rational argument or evidence, thus it is inevitable that they would externalise costs.

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The timeline is looking most awesome - I wonder if at some point air would become so polluted that breathing would be effectively privatised via sale of breathing apparatus; it would be very profitable because without it people will die. The apparatus would be recycled mostly by burning, to ensure continued pollution of the atmosphere (and minimise costs associated with disposing of waste, of course).

In the run up to The Collapse, I would expect that health services associated with natural birth would be suspended (or simply become too expensive) and people would have to pay for "external womb" births, often with extra fees incurred to purchase rights to patented genes from their own DNA. Capitalism has already monetised death, for example, in terms of funerals, coffins, and human body waste recycling (cremation, or land fill). So it seems logical that everything associated with birth should be monetised as well.

[Rman Virgil]

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Tanks. Tryin' my best. My tendency is to fly by the seat of my pants which you can more readily get away with in short fiction forms but with great length and scope, not so much going in, and it's wiser to do this groundwork organizing. Once it's assimilated and second nature, occassions will still arise, I'm thinking, where I'll still be able to improv on the fly which is fundamental to my process.

I should put all that stuff in a revised "Part A", aubergine, which I was just working on making language edits and removing the colossal faux pas.

That colossal faux pas tickled my fancy because it reminded me of this game we played as youngins in grade school called "The Moron Test" which consisted of a series of questions that were, well, moronic. It was amazing how many failed "The Moron Test". But it was good humored fun for kids though I imagine in hindesight it could fall under the rubric of a "cruel joke" for them yet lacking that meld of bedrock confidence, authentic humility and grace under fire. Something you either develope or instead build-up the carapace of a fear-riddled boor, a mighty poor substitute, and I dare say much in pitiful evidence. But I digress far afield of this mission.

Getting back on course....

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In all fairness, there has been a revisioning of capitalism afoot the last couple decades, spearheaded by the likes of the Bioneers, Amory Lovins, Paul Hawken, William McDonough, et al. Sadly, I donot see it becoming ascendant anytime in the foreseeable future as capitalism takes it's lead from the corporate law on the books that have been grown and entrenched over the last 5 centuries and these may as well be immutable with the sociopathic NWO not giving up an inch of thier power base...

May be pushing back the next timeline post another day as I'm running outta time right now and don't wanna rush these new additions.

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[Merowingg]

Hello Rman

I am afraid I have to insist on resigning from the Katyn name.

Please read this carefully.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

[Rman Virgil]

Hello Rman

I am afraid I have to insist on resigning from the Katyn name.

Please read this carefully.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre

Hi Mero.

Understandable but if you look at the Timeline I didn't use "Katyn" - I had already changed it to Katlin. Would that work ? What I liked was the "Kat" part because it sounded like a natural, and cool, nick name.
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[Merowingg]

Yes, sounds good.

I have recently this look, look around, type an answer time :/ I have dificculties with catching up, especially in the thread

I have also those few ideas, a sort of avalanche, I shout them loudly, shot, and again visiting in a rush

I like the sentence of yours, that you will be for longer on weekend, very funny knowing your activity here

[Rman Virgil]

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Alright then, Mero. We're good.

We all have to find the balance that works best with all we do. I know you have a lot going on but would still like to participate when you can. I think a lot of us are that way. There's the basic interest in the game and then there's a universe of what could be beyond the present which can be intellectually seductive, lets say, and fun to engage no doubt.

But then sometimes you get pulled in different directions by your very interests and you have to make choices because there's only so much time to work with. Over the last few weeks my interest in WZ has morphed into creating an illustrated novel. I know exactly what that process is going to entail. Part of it wll be an essential realignment of how I aportion my time and energy. Ergo, the shift to Sunday instead of anytime. When you take on something that is more marathon than sprint, you have to make critical adjustments. You have to run a different race if you even hope to see the finish line. So... that's what that comment was all about.

Btw... just completed making arrangements for my next trip in few short months which will include several places that I will be writing about in the novel: a visit to the Biosphere II Project which I've not been to for a long time, Soleri's Arcosanti again (this time I'll stay overnight) and a place I've never been to - the most pristine and spectacular meteor impact crater on the planet. While I have a wellspring of imagination to draw on, I also like to feed it RL regularly.

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[Rman Virgil]

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Part A, v. 0.03.

Made language edits, new additions (both mine and those recently suggested by aubergine) and also removed the "moronic" faux pas which if you compare with v. 0.02 above, you will be able to spot and have a good chuckle, I think.

Part B - if not later today, then tomorrow. Been going back and forth on how much to include. This part will of course have much more of the Pumpkin canon. At the moment I'm thinking of going way lighter on non-canon events and leaving much more room for others to extrapolate those highlights, including possible future CAMs.
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[aubergine]

Looking good, reviewing now.

Here's some completely un-related photos of an awe inspiring landscape in China: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rtist.html

EDIT: Stem cell rivalling porn? Porn? Where did that come from? (no pun intended)

EDIT #2: The main thought I have is that the timeline isn't taking account of the ever-increasing pace of change in society - I'd imagine most of those things to be happening 10 years sooner, in particular the attacks on GMOs.

[Rman Virgil]

Looking good, reviewing now.

Here's some completely un-related photos of an awe inspiring landscape in China: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rtist.html

EDIT: Stem cell rivalling porn? Porn? Where did that come from? (no pun intended)

Incredible landscape. Never seen anything like that in RL.... just in Fauvist paintings. http://www.google.com/search?q=fauvist+ ... 40&bih=375 (More accurate than the "Impressionism" ref in the article, at least to my eye and understanding of the diffs between the 2 aesthetic movements. Though it's easy to understand how Impressionism could over-shadow the very short-lived Fauvist movement. The "Seer" pic a few pages back was strongly Fauvist influenced.)

No pun intended..... Dunno where it came from. The industry is mega huge and I think will continue to grow with VR tech. Nobody talks about it much. I started to include VR gaming but ran out of space in the same slot. Maybe I should replace the VR Porn with VR Gaming.

Feel free to swatch over any text box changes.

EDIT #2: The main thought I have is that the timeline isn't taking account of the ever-increasing pace of change in society - I'd imagine most of those things to be happening 10 years sooner, in particular the attacks on GMOs..

Had that thought niggling at me about everything as I got close to filling up the Timeline. See what I can do about rearranging. May go so far as reconfigureing the start date before Reed's birth by adding a fifth row. Or maybe keep the 2028 start and shift-condolidate back in time key events. I'll sleep on it and see which course would be more advantagous.
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[Rman Virgil]

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Didn't need to sleep on it afterall.

Now it's pick the events to shift back in time and where ?

Suggestions ?
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[aubergine]

Regarding VR - why not treat it as a drug? In recent years it's become apparent that western governments are *still* behind much of the drugs trade, for example CIA's links to Mexican drug cartels (and many, many documented drug running operations over the years), UK military protecting opium fields in Afghanistan to ensure a massive increase in the drug over the past few years, etc. The issue with psychotropic drug trade is that when revealed it's often very problematic for authorities as they can't really justify their actions - it's shown the "war on drugs" to be more of a "war on anyone who gets in the way of the drug trade", much as the "war on terrorism" is much more about "war on anyone who prevents terrorism" - eg. US govt funding, arming and training al Qaeda not just in Afghanistan, which later led to the events of 9/11, subsequent "we will bomb western democracy in to you" wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, to the recent funding, arming and training of al Qaeda backed terrorists in Syria resulting in heart-eating jihadists running amok. When the general public realise these things and start to comprehend that their tax dollars are funding their own inevitable enslavement and demise, it's not particularly good PR for the authorities. I believe the resulting effect is oft referred to as "blowback". VR, on the other hand, could be a most profitable new drug and also an ideal channel to perform psyops via the VR environment. Take something that is socially acceptable and cognitively liberating (gaming) and subvert it in to a profitable form of assault on the public. The NWO basically have to take anything that's good and productive and subvert it to be harmful and non-productive, it's all about profit and profit is all about control.

Anyway, will take a look at the 0.04 timeline shortly and provide feedback.

[aubergine]

Would it not make more sense for Reed to attend Yale, where he would join Skull & Bones society?

And regarding GMO crop infection, would that not be done much sooner than 2060? By 2060 all plant life will be patented, with GMOs having completely replaced all natural plants (any remaining natural plants will be purposefully destroyed by GMO companies). We're already seeing NWO force GMOs upon all countries, just recently in Europe the "Plant Reproductive Material Law" has been passed (related: Codex Alimentarius), and in the UK where I live advisers are already pushing FUD to ensure GMOs reign supreme. There is also the upcoming March Against Monsanto (note: the list is scrollable) where protests are taking place in hundreds of cities all over the world. I would expect widespread civil disobedience and attacks on GM crops to steadily escalate as corporations try to quell the uprising, particularly as study after study shows that GM crops not only lower yields, they increase use of pesticides and fertiliser, give rise to super weeds, and cause widespread health issues (just look at USA for proof of that). I imagine a genetic/biological attack on GMOs would happen sometime around 2030. Also, it won't be "terrorists"* attacking GMOs, it will be ordinary citizens who've been left with no alternative in order just to survive.

*Definition of terrorist: Anyone who is against western capitalism.