The Doc's Bio Lab for Scav Experiments - & other oddities.

[Rman Virgil]

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Take a deep breathe. This one is densely packed.

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BTW.... just picked-up my reserve copy of "The Fourth Turning" from the library this afternoon. Looking to dig into it over the weekend and glean insights and possible narrative nuggets for the timeline.

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Make sure you get more sleep - insufficient sleep harms the brain and body in many ways!

Yeah. I know better too. I'm setting my alarm not only to wake up but also to remind me to break away from my various creative enthusiasms to get a couple hours shut eye before getting on to the office to make a buck. A price I'm willing to pay in short-term bursts as opposed to a protracted habit.

Would it be worth turning the world in to NWO between 2013 - 2035, so that Hammond is born in to a society that has one world government, RFID chipping, total surveillance, epic double speak, etc. a la 1984? A world in which everything, including most of nature (what's left of it) is owned and tightly controlled by megacorps. Might be interesting to explore his resultant paradigm and watch as events unfold that make lead him to his Southwest timeout and ultimately make him realise that the economics he's been brought up on are a form of brain damage, and so on.

A wholehearted yes.

Few things come to mind.

~ Extrapolate a continued escalation of violence and terrorist acts on US soil such that the Constitution and its Amendments are stress-tested to the core and Martial Law enters into the equation and the transformations you listed. This would be taking the Bush 2 administration's "Patriot Act" after 911 to a whole other level of magnitude ramification.

~ In considering what such terrorist acts could precipitate this chain of events I come up with 3 added scenarios: taking down one of the 3 US power grids, bio weaps targeted at big agri and livestock and, last, serious contamination of the Oglala Aquifer.

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~ In invokeing Orwell's 1984 I'd like to pursue a new thread he did not foresee as he built his vision of Totatalitarianism on Stalin's reign and a projection of technology whose scope was not quite as insidious as what we have even in 2013.

This new thread would be comprised of 2 entwined strands.

~ The first strand derived from philosopher Hannah Arendt's chilling phrase "the banality of evil" in her study of Eichmann and the Third Reich.

* Eichmann, Hannah Arendt, and the banality of evil: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannah_Arendt

~ The second strand derived from a very particular form of satire which you brought to mind with your referal to the Aussie culling news scandal and Swift's "A Modest Proposal".

This form of satire preceded Swift's practice of it by it's founder, Rabelais, and recieved its first critical study by Erasmus in his "De Copia" rhetoric and culminated in the 20th Century with the work of Russian philosopher and critic Mikhail Bakhtin.

Specifically they involve 2 tropes: the Grotesque and the Carnivalesque.

I'm speaking to yarn-spinning shop talk here and I don't think I should get too deep into it so I'm providing links at the end of this post for anyone who has more than cursory interest in these subjects.

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However, this much I'll say in relation to the John Hammond characterization.

As I have already implied a connection in his Bio to Soleri's "Arcosanti" and "The Biosphere 2" through his Southwest time-out, I'm also thinking of making a connection to the "Carnivalesque", societal dissafection and non-militant subversive demonstrations via a couple RL events extrapolated into the future. Both of which I have first hand experience with from their inception through my many years of being totally plugged into the San Fran art, and alternate life style, communities. These would be:

* The Burning Man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_Man

* Mark Pauline's "Survival Research Labs": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Pauline

http://www.srl.org/

In my extrapolation I will conflate the 2 as one annual event and, as the Hammond grand strategy unfolds, will weave the event to serve as one of his covert recruiting resources from outside the established government and megacorp circle, I'm thinking. Also mulling over making it a combination metaphor and alternate culture icon to depict the swelling ranks of those disaffected with the oppressive societal status quo trajectory that is being projected in this future history.

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Also, what if Dr. Reed had very similar world view to Hammond, until events such as the bomb that takes his son's legs sends him on a very different path? Maybe they both ended up working together for that reason? So Dr. Reed could start out as a good guy, then goes to the dark side and become NEXUS, but deep down Hammond has a desire to try and help Dr. Reed and make him good again (maybe something that could start to become apparent in cam4)?

Absolutely. I've always seen Dr. Reed as much more interesting and compelling than a stock, 2 dimensional, cardboard villain. This will also, as you astutely point-out, dovetail with Goth's re-booted backstory for his CAM 4.

Have to come-up with milestone points, and specific occassions, of contact for them on the evolving timeline.

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BTW: here is the timeline stuff I did a while back: https://warzone.atlassian.net/wiki/disp ... t+timeline

Great. I'll see to merging it with our evolving Grand Backstory Timeline over the next few days.

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Additional story crafting references:

* Satire: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire

* De Copia / Erasmus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copia:_Fou ... dant_Style

* Rabelais: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabelais

* The Carnivalesque and the Grotesque: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabelais_and_His_World

* Russian Philosopher and linguistic critic, Mikhail Bakhtin: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Bakhtin

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Time to make a buck.

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[Goth Zagog-Thou]

Awesome stuff. Love it!

Looking forward to what develops.

If I could +rep, it would be done. Of course, I'd +rep everyone anyway.

[Merowingg]

I am just dropping by with quck reply

Was this sleeping thing to me? If yes I want to explain that it was one of my hard to understand jokes maybe. Concrete for bunkers of course and I do live in Europe.

Rman, Merah I am kidding of course. Because of my background you, and 98% here may think, yes as always Meros thoughts. But I am serious this time. I see hardly many women in the story. And by strong I ment mainly with important role. But Tina a sweeper who always loved Dr. reed sinc she has first time seen him in the office, and lasted in hidden unfortunate love, may appear too.

Dam far too long sentences

But if in need, I can create some females, and not necessarily in a style i seem partly shamelessly promote

[Rman Virgil]

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Mero, why not take a stab at creating an outline characterization of John Hammond's adoptive mother ? Not trying to preasure you, my friend, and I know you have that important paper for Uni your working on. But, take it as a fun passtime break from your scholarly effort. I've seen your imagination, passion and mad skillz at work in this sorta thing. Just an outline and we can work it out from there.... She is a crux character.

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Appreciate the support, Goth. And look forward to your CAM 4 backstory evolving and integrating into the evolving Grand Timeline / backstory.
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[Merowingg]

No no no I want the shy sweeper lady

Crux Thank you for kind words. Well the paper, scares me already, and tries to ruin any of my free thoughts, so.. hell yeah Rman of course I will try to help

[Rman Virgil]

No no no I want the shy sweeper lady

Crux Thank you for kind words. Well the paper, scares me already, and tries to ruin any of my free thoughts, so.. hell yeah Rman of course I will try to help

Sweeper lady ! No way. Not even if you made her loud and hysterically funny.

Cool... you'll give it a whirl..

Now... because of you - entirely your fault, no one else to blame - I just finished reading pages 206 - 214 of The Oxford Guide to Literature in English Translation (edited by Peter France) these being the chapters on Polish Poetry, Novels and Drama.

Do give it a look see. It's enlightening on several fronts: http://books.google.com/books?id=pmNoS2 ... =html_text

But, I need to get back to studying aubergine's recommendation, The Fourth Turning : http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/076790 ... ttom_links

Also back to what started this ball rolling, The Project's inner workings: power structure, governance, how decisions are arrived at, priorities established, goals identified and engaged....

And, btw, Mr. Mero..... calling the classic 1966 Shelby Cobra "a sausage car" is a profound affront to my pratfall aesthetic sensibilities and lackadaisical sense of self-importance. All I can say in response is that that there is a 5.5 million dollar "sausage" neither one of us will ever take to breakfast.
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[Rman Virgil]

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Some real life examples to illustrate a couple key posits.

First posit would be the following aspects of the John Hammond characterizaton to date:

If I make Hammond a total outsider and clear enemy of the established state at the outset, he becomes a target from the get go of forces far more powerful than he is in his teens and early twenties. That he would choose to understand first hand, from within, the levers of existing power, the machinations of the established, deeply flawed and self-serving system, to in time effect change, is a wiser subversive martial strategy than a frontal insurrection readily percieved as such by the VERY mighty political-military-industrial complex. In fencing, as on the battle field, it is a clever feint, aka a gambit.

He will recruit the disaffected from within the system (as well as from without, with great care and anonymity) and he will turn the systems own resources to it's subversion which is his road to both The Project and NORAD and also how he will be able to identify the greatly established, global, power players in opposition, like Dr. Reed, early on in his agenda of, if at all possible, a bloodless societal transformation.

Hammond's excercise of power has to be not only clever and rationally grounded but also not in any way be possession or greed-driven or out to brute coerce others to his will and as such, in clear contrast to the excercise of power by Dr. Reed and his ilk.

Second posit comes from the dense post at the top of this page dealing with amending a classic extrapolation from the past in light of current technology and also associating it with specific story crafting tropes:

~ In invokeing Orwell's 1984 I'd like to pursue a new thread he did not foresee as he built his vision of Totatalitarianism on Stalin's reign and a projection of technology whose scope was not quite as insidious as what we have even in 2013.

The following 3 RL examples dovetail with the above posits on multiple-levels.

Satire vs Extremism

"We should employ humour and satire to expose, discredit and marginalise intolerant Islamists or violent extremists, and force them into making mistakes which expose them for what they truly are.” Strategic communications guru James P. Farwell asserts that humour is the best medicine in the fight against intolerant attitudes in the Middle East, focusing his idea on the current activities of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.

http://www.informationoperationsevent.c ... lse&mLoc=U

US State Department’s viral videos make mockery of terrorists

April 2013

We explore how the United States State Department has aimed to turn the tables on Islamist radicals by leveraging the very same platform that terrorist recruiters have been using unchallenged for years: online media sharing.

By creating everything from viral videos to blog posts and photoshopped memes, the government is taking an unorthodox yet crucial approach to preventing normal people from turning an idea into an ideal. 

Strategic communications efforts such as this are still experimental, with the measurement of effectiveness difficult to grasp, but here, the man in charge of the branch explains how Al-Qaeda are already feeling the impact.

http://www.informationoperationsevent.c ... lse&mLoc=F

Narrative Power for Strategic Communications

“Storyteller” Tony Quinlan has spent 20 years shaping communications and change programmes for blue chip companies, international aid organisations and the public sector.

He's addressed international cultural differences, gang recruitment, and is now helping the Information Operations Global delegation to better understand how militaries can use grassroots narratives to better formulate a communications strategy. Read his thoughts on why narratives cannot be forced upon a culture…

http://www.informationoperationsevent.c ... lse&mLoc=F

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[Rman Virgil]

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Completed The Fourth Turning: An American Prophecy - What the Cycles of History Tell Us About America's Next Rendezvous with Destiny.

Facinating and spot-on with a number of prognostications since its publication in 1997. Thanks again for the tip.

As I was reading, another work came to mind. One I read a lifetime ago. The author began writing before the start of WW 1 and published in 1918. I wondered what I would make of it now so I procured a top notch digital copy and started it. Phew.... what a titanic intellect, what brilliant originality in thesis, rigorously woven and matched to compelling language. Its 20th century reputation as a world class masterwork still holds up IMHO.

I'm speaking of Oswald Spengler and his 2-volume "The Decline of the West". So thanks again. I wouldnot likely have gone back to this masterwork to re-read it had I not taken up your recommendation for "The Fourth Turning" (and Spengler's work most definitely merits a number of re-reads, it's that rich and belongs on the same bookshelf alongside Edward Gibbon's "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire").

Here's the outstanding digital edition I'm reading now:

http://www.amazon.com/Decline-West-Full ... s=Spengler

Well then... will break away from these studies Sat. and Sun. to do some writing and work on the evolving John Hammond bio / backstory and Grand Timeline. Fun. (May be slow to respond to posts over that spell but will likely have a revision, v.0.02, of the Grand Timeline by Sunday's waneing.)
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[Rman Virgil]

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What follows has been greatly aided by aubergine's work on aggregating and clarifying elements to the WZ canonical backstory and timeline. Indispensible, actually.

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Before proceeding, I have some questions and some posits related to the WZ Backstory Canon (WZBC) that have a direct impact on the shapeing of this evolving Grand Backstory Timeline (GBT), prognosticated events and world conditions, Pre-Collapse, that would influence the John Hammond and Dr. Reed portrayals, their lives crossing paths and their seperate, and ultimately opposing, strategies for influencing the future course of civilization.

These same questions, and posits, also open up the gaps in the WZBC to new stories, missions and CAMs by identifying them with specific calender windows of time.

~ The WZ Canon:

- November 3rd, 2085: The Collapse

- January 19th, 2086: North American Nuclear Winter

* We'd fled Seattle early in '86. We'd heard that the Rocky Mountains were relatively rad-free. After fighting off bands of marauders on the journey we arrive at midnight, April 10th, 2086 to safety.

* 2086: ... A group of survivors discover an abandoned subterranean military base. They set up home there and begin The Project base in the Rockies.

~ Question: Why not make the begining of January 2086 their departure from Seattle to the CO Rockies ? This would give them at least 3 months to make the 1400 mile trip. About 450 miles a month, little over a 100 miles a week.

~ Question: Why not flat-out declare that the Rockies destination as a publically decommissioned NORAD ? (Covertly, it is only partly decommisioned.)

- Posit: NORAD is ostensibly decommisioned in 2065 to cross it off from the international list of Nuke targets.

- Posit: Both John Hammond and Dr. Reed are involved in NORAD's overt decommisioning in 2065. This is when they still have an amicable relationship based on their common interest in cybernetics. An amicable relationship that in subsequent years is first strained, and finally severed, by thier diverging worldviews and commitments to societal change. This would also address how NORAD could be targeted by Reed's Intruder Virus May-June of 2100. More subsidiary posits can flow from this one in the way of setting-up NORAD for the January 2086 journey and initial 14 year occupation prior to The Project's emergence.

~ The WZ Canon:

- 2099: The Project emerges from its military base

- 2100: The Project begins its search for Pre-Collapse technologies.

* "The Project is dedicated to recovering Pre-Collapse technologies and rebuilding the world." - Project Mission Statement

* "From the ashes of the Collapse we seek to build a better world for all." -John Hammond, Project Director
 
- Dawn, April 4th, 2100 / North America / A New Beginning.

* "The Project" starts!

- July 4th, 2100 / Project HQ / A New Era Dawn . Alpha, Beta, Gamma transports are launched.

~ Question: When in 2099 does The Project emerge from NORAD ?

- Posit: January 1999.

~ Question: What can The Project be doing in the 15 months between January 1999 emergence and the launch on April 4th, 2100 of the Alpha, Beta and Gamma Teams to look for Pre-Collapse technologies ?

~ Question: What technologies did The Project NEED to have during its 14 year occupation of NORAD ?

And now to the series of questions that triggered this journey we are in the midst of, and trying to answer them with an evolving John Hammond biography.

~ Questions: What is The Project mission specifically ?

- What is The Project's organizing power structure ?

- How are priorities arrived at ?

- What are the priorities ?

- How are final decisions made and enforced or executed ?

- As The Project's Director is John Hammond a one man show when it comes to governing ?

- Or is John Hammond part of a governing body like an Oligarchy ?

- If an Oligarchy what besides Scientists and Military personel, would comprise it ?

~ Question: Why not cement the canonical status of .... ?

- May-June 2100: the NEXUS Intruder Program Infects Project HQ / NORAD.

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And now a question about introducing an entirely new global impact element to the canonical WZ backstory and Pre-Collapse Timeline. This element would work in tandem with the already proposed 3 major terrorist acts on US soil, to continue fommenting rising dissaffection with, and ressistence to, the status quo established power structure. At the same time it would also stress to the core the Bill of Rights, the Consitution and it's Ammendments on the path to Martial Law and more. It would also dovetail with the John Hammond and Dr. Reed characterizations, their schism and divergent stratiegies for societal reformation.

~ Question: Should we introduce the forecasted consequences of global warming unfolding through the rest of the 21st century clear to 2100 ?

As a result of continued ice shelf and polar cap melt, the rise in sea level forecasts to 2100 range from 22 inches to as much ws 32 feet. You can well imagine the impact on densely populated coastal regions like the East and West coasts of the US. Along with that comes greater and greater incidence of catastrophic storms, hurricans, tornadoes, mass floods and former bread-baskets stricken with protracted droughts.

Hell, the world is on its way to Collapse, Pre-Collapse, even before the Nuke Trigger is pulled. This could also suggest an additional side to Dr. Reed's very dark motivations. A pre-emptive, Malthusian, motivation to go along with his radical Transhumanism. John Hammond's approach, Pre-Collapse, would have to be in stark contrast and why they would have to part ways eventually.

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Well, that's where it's at to date...

Breaking away for few days then will come back to it, to work with any more feedback and contributing details that may be offered in the interim.

Thanks in advance.

In the meanwhile, to use a totally different hemisphere of my wetware, I'm mulling an illustration of the first time John Hammond and Dr. Alan Reed meet. As I recall I proposed it took place at an International Symposium On the State of Cybernetics in Oslo, Norway, where they both presented papers and led subsequent discussion groups.

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[aubergine]

~ Question: Why not make the begining of January 2086 their departure from Seattle to the CO Rockies ? This would give them at least 3 months to make the 1400 mile trip. About 450 miles a month, little over a 100 miles a week.

Could do - the date shown was based on the captions in the intro vid IIRC. Those are define in text files so could probably be changed if necessary.

~ Question: Why not flat-out declare that the Rockies destination as a publically decommissioned NORAD ? (Covertly, it is only partly decommisioned.)

There would need to be some compelling evidence of NORAD being decommissioned. Maybe a quake makes it structurally unsound or something like that?

- Posit: Both John Hammond and Dr. Reed are involved in NORAD's overt decommisioning in 2065. This is when they still have an amicable relationship based on their common interest in cybernetics. An amicable relationship that in subsequent years is first strained, and finally severed, by thier diverging worldviews and commitments to societal change. This would also address how NORAD could be targeted by Reed's Intruder Virus May-June of 2100. More subsidiary posits can flow from this one in the way of setting-up NORAD for the January 2086 journey and initial 14 year occupation prior to The Project's emergence.

Sounds good.

~ Question: When in 2099 does The Project emerge from NORAD ?

Dawn, April 4th, 2100 is shown in the intro video captions IIRC.

~ Question: What can The Project be doing in the 15 months between January 1999 emergence and the launch on April 4th, 2100 of the Alpha, Beta and Gamma Teams to look for Pre-Collapse technologies ?

Not just that - what does Project occupy themselves with in the time between first getting to NORAD (Midnight, April 10th, 2086) to emerging (2099 or 2100 depending on which date is chosen)?

~ Question: What technologies did The Project NEED to have during its 14 year occupation of NORAD ?

Intro vid mentions "We rebuilt the landing pads and brought the old systems back online." -- so stuff relating to that I guess?

They'd need a fair bit of engineering, electronics, software engineering, power generation, general life support (food/water/etc), ventilation...

~ Questions: What is The Project mission specifically ?

Not sure yet - whatever it is, it has to be the reason they go looking for synaptic link, vtol and whatever team gamma are after.

- What is The Project's organizing power structure ?

Depends on how many people there are in The Project, and where those people came from. So if on the journey from Seattle to NORAD they pick up some new folk, how would they fit in? What if some bands of scavs/marauders had joined them? Not to mention random civilians in Seattle and along the way.

We know they have at least some hierarchy - teams alpha/beta/gamma and with some group sitting over them giving them missions, etc. But how big are each of the teams?

The fact they have a mission statement and John Hammond gave a "From the ashes of the Collapse we seek to build a better world for all." speech indicates they are quite a sizeable group and have some sort of governance structure. It's not like they'd me making those statements to reporters from the local TV station. The words we know from Hammond seem to be more relaying the decisions of a governance group of some kind - he's stating what they've agreed upon, he's reporting as if to the people who elected him?

I'm not overly keen on the idea of an oligarchy. Maybe something more akin to the political environment in Iceland at the moment - sort of a Piratar (sp?) approach? And would they have this sort of structure from the outset? And would this be the structure they started with in Seattle or something that evolves over time (more likely) - I imagine when the group first starts forming there wouldn't be much of a structure to it, but Hammond would likely become a de facto leader due to his vision and knowledge and experience, etc. Maybe their initial steps would be to set up something akin to an Occupy 'assembly' (complete with voting hand gestures - you seen those?) to facilitate group decision making / info sharing?

- May-June 2100: the NEXUS Intruder Program Infects Project HQ / NORAD.

Cement in what way - the date or ...?

~ Question: Should we introduce the forecasted consequences of global warming unfolding through the rest of the 21st century clear to 2100 ?

As a result of continued ice shelf and polar cap melt, the rise in sea level forecasts to 2100 range from 22 inches to as much ws 32 feet. You can well imagine the impact on densely populated coastal regions like the East and West coasts of the US. Along with that comes greater and greater incidence of catastrophic storms, hurricans, tornadoes, mass floods and former bread-baskets stricken with protracted droughts.

There's actually a map out there showing what will happen to US if sea level rises - large chunks of land turn in to lakes/oceans! I'll try and find it.

EDIT: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread555230/pg1

[Merowingg]

Dear God. Thank you very much Rman. I have only visited cybernetic word during the weekend. I also did almost nothing with my work. I did not start creating a woman too

Really thank you for additional information to my work.

I have only read the last post priefly, skimmed I assume is the word. I will take closer look later.

[aubergine]

Ah, the thread is cleaned.

Rman: Not sure if I've posted this before, but I think the mindset illustrated by this article on "Human beings have no right to water" could be really interesting.

Specifically, out of everything I've ever read, I think that one article sums up the core mindset and inevitable direction of any economy that's based on money (or anything like money). It expresses exactly what I felt I was being driven towards back when I was a CEO, and ultimately that's what caused me to outright reject capitalism. For me the article gets to the root of the danger of basing the direction of the human race on something that maths can be applied to.

Could we use that mindset to project how the world will be shaped from now - and in turn deduce the power struggles within that mindset and also the external resistance to it?

[Merowingg]

Rman The matter went good I see. I am really happy to see that. We had a medusa once, there still are more compex and with good word camuflage mutations of such "creature" out there. But there was this perm ban feature used after all

Again I have just visited like ninja ---->

[Rman Virgil]

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* 1st - been dealing with some tech HW probs since the weekend that ended up being major with its impact on my OS. Had to order parts that will arrive Thurs evening and I can start fixing - HW and SW. In the meanwhile I'm gonna have to be more Twitter-like in my responses... till I'm fully up and running again Fri - Sat.

@ aubergine: * In agreement with all your suggestions and will work to posting revisions over the weekend.

In the meanwhile some brief comments.

* NORAD - need to work out more of these details Pre and Post Collapse and your suggestions are helpful. Need to do some geological research for the decommissioning angle. Also for what the heck they were doing all those years before Alpha, Beta, Gamma Missions. 14 years is a long time to spend underground. I would posit small forays prior to the Official Cam missions first off, along with those Pre-Collapse preparation posits. But... we'll await the weekend for that.

* Rising sea level article - awesome presentation. Good find. ATS and Disinformation websites were resources I used to spend a lot of time with in years past but not so much the last couple. Good reminder.

* The Pirate Party... new to me and I think a perfect fit for The Project governance. Teriffic suggestion and solution. Will run with it.

* "Human Beings Have No Right to Water" article, I agree, is a brilliant summary of opposing world views we should get into the backstory. It could also be another component in the eventual schism between Dr. Alan Reed and John Hammon Pre-Collapse. Post Collapse it could be reflected in the "Money" question. All of it could be attatched to defining specifics in The Project Mission.

* Couple pages back I attempted a preliminary effort along these lines in the Preface of a faux historical tome being composed by the Official Project Historian character I dubbed Garibaldi.
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[Rman Virgil]

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@ Mero: Yes, cybernetics is a facinating subject. For the last couple decades my interest has been focused through the web via "The Principia Cybernetica Project". Before that, the life and work of founder Norbert Weiner, a true genius who had a very unusual upbringing in that he was specifically raised to be a genius !

* I need to come up with a creadible area of advanced Cybernetics that can be of common interest to both John Hammond & Reed that would work as the basis for initiating their relationship at that Oslo, Norway, Symposium on Cybernetics where they both presented papers & led discussion groups. An area of credible relevance in, say, 2060 the year of their first meeting and some 5 years before the posited decommision of NORAD in 2065 - which they had a hand in for reasons that overlapped but still diverged.

* On the creation of the character of John Hammond's adoptive mother... whenever it happens, will be fine. Don't sweat it.

* Translation... it's a common interest you re-ignighted with your Uni paper. Your coming at it from one genre and I came at it from another but the core common ground is there. And... there is even a connection to the WZ backstory !

* Just gonna use one brief example. Most languages have a word for ''land'' that can easily be translated literally. However, the meaning behind that simple word can be utterly divergent world views..

When the Old World began invading the New World a lot of the impetus revolved around land. Simply, the Old World saw land to be owned like a pair of pants and to the New World people this was crazy and alien. Land was creation and you could not "own" creation. Talk about "getting lost in translation".

The so-called "sale" of Manhattan island to the Dutch was only that to the Dutch not at all to the Tribes they were interacting with. They had not abstracted themselves out of, or placed themselves above, creation with the construct of capital / money. I'm making use of this in fleshing-out the world view of The Seven Nations faction.
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