[Cam 0] 'Scavenger Wars' Ideas Thread

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Maybe we can come up with some concept that:

a) Oil producing bacteria went in to mass production

b) To avoid bad smells on surface, biomass with bacteria pumped under ground to replenish empty oil reserves

c) Years later the bacteria had done it's job and the old reserves contain oil once more

I still like Rman's idea about the renewable energy "third industrial revolution" and think that should play a part in many of the missions. Will need to explain why renewable energy isn't used in later missions and the other cams though...

How long does a wind farm or solar farm take to build? Maybe it's just quicker and easier to make derricks = better in warzones?
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aubergine wrote:Maybe in cam0 when they get to places like biosphere, etc., they can get some renewable energy, but once they go further afield they don't have time to set up the more complex renewable tech so opt to pull what little there is left of oil out of the ground?
IMHO.... that's perfect.

Berg wrote:A distillery and grain biosphere?
LOL... if that were done we'd also have to create a new GPM - HTH combat, drunken brawls and some serious hangover FXs. ;)

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I did, but usually it is hard to me to understand what rman says.(I have no idea of why :| )
I'm truly sorry for that. If you think of something I can do to change and be more clear. ... I would be willing to try. :)

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Rman Virgil wrote:.
aubergine wrote:Maybe in cam0 when they get to places like biosphere, etc., they can get some renewable energy, but once they go further afield they don't have time to set up the more complex renewable tech so opt to pull what little there is left of oil out of the ground?
IMHO.... that's perfect.

Berg wrote:A distillery and grain biosphere?
LOL... if that were done we'd also have to create a new GPM - HTH combat, drunken brawls and some serious hangover FXs. ;)

Giani wrote:.....

I did, but usually it is hard to me to understand what rman says.(I have no idea of why :| )
I'm truly sorry for that. If you think of something I can do to change and be more clear. ... I would be willing to try. :)

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Giani wrote:.....

I always can understand you; but when it is about explaining an idea i can't understand.
In the past I was told my posts were too long. So I try to make my posts as short as I can. In that process I compress ideas a lot.... perhaps too much. I'll try to find a sweet spot that is not too short or too long when it comes to explaining ideas that could be unfamiliar to some members. :3

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It seems that this cam is going to be "environmental educational " ... I like it :-)

Rman, I think I see what's Giani means. Your language is in highr level then the normal. I don't think it's bad, because although I write awful English, it's clear to me what you're explaining.
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@Rman I think your use of the word "canon" will confuse a lot of people, especially non-english speakers who are trying to work out what cannons have to do with the price of bacon.
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Rman Virgil wrote:
Giani wrote:.....

I always can understand you; but when it is about explaining an idea i can't understand.
In the past I was told my posts were too long. So I try to make my posts as short as I can. In that process I compress ideas a lot.... perhaps too much. I'll try to find a sweet spot that is not too short or too long when it comes to explaining ideas that could be unfamiliar to some members. :3

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aubergine wrote:@Rman I think your use of the word "canon" will confuse a lot of people, especially non-english speakers who are trying to work out what cannons have to do with the price of bacon.
LOL. That reminds me of running joke from way back - navel cannons. ;)

Point taken.

And for the other suggestions - thanks gentlemen, I'll follow through. :3

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Stupid college education! :lol2:

I plan to begin work on the cam 0 maps today. Cam 4 is in a state where the current release needs several weeks of testing (I need more feedback!), so I can get going on this.

A hybrid of Urban and Rockies for tileset would be appropriate here. In order to ensure that what happened in Cam 4 does NOT happen here, I plan to do all work using the 3.2 branch as a base.

One question: does 3.2 support using all tilesets at once yet? And, what assets are going to be used? Cam 4 (some) and USM for sure, what about NTW? AND ... is NRS making an appearance as well?

[EDIT] More questions.
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here viewtopic.php?f=42&t=9307
I explain why you can't do that, unless we first solve the techtree problem. I've been repeating that again and again, so i made my own topic :) .
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My main concern is that new campaigns most probably will turn "too advanced" comparing to current ones (where most of missions has the same basic scenario, where biggest exceptions are those with lassat, rescuing team Alpha remains and maybe civilians rescuing). And it would be hard to "jazz them up" without breaking their plot (but improved details like nice texture for that dam in Beta campaign would be nice).
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Goth Zagog-Thou wrote:3.2 branch as a base.
I saw in some other threads about 3.2 and i can't understand why ppl says 3.2 when it doesn't exist :hmm:
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Giani wrote:I saw in some other threads about 3.2 and i can't understand why ppl says 3.2 when it doesn't exist :hmm:
Because it's easier than "the next major version after 3.1" or "whatever the next release from master will be called"?
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Yeah, master branch. I call it 3.2 because that's essentially what it is. :P
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In terms of the JS API there's a herd of new features in the master branch that will be released when 3.2 becomes available, so I also call it 3.2 branch.
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