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Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 00:00**

That's exactly what i currently do. At least three CB towers are certain to have been built immediately after they are researched, and sensors start to appear at the same time. Are you saying it doesn't work?

In the game I just played against nullbot ~mc~ it was building arty before it made any CB towers (I didn't check to see what it had researched, sorry).

You already did (: I'm refering to canHitAir and canHitGround properties of structures (and droids) that are useful to count how much AA i already have.

In 3.1 you can use the .name property to determine what a structure is = fairly readable name for the structure.

May i ask again what map and what game setup you were playing?

I do most of my testing on sk-startup t0, with me vs nullbot.

High power, no bases, sometimes with nullbot on "insane" difficulty (which means it gets double power and any pre-defined base structures included with the map are left intact). I often play with scavengers activated.

Sure, but i still have no idea how to issue them. We don't have a function to issue orders that don't need a target.

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// not tested, but this might work

const DORDER_STOP = 1;
const DORDER_REARM = 32;

orderDroidLoc(myDroid,DORDER_STOP,myDrod.x,myDroid.y);


// if this next line doesn't work, then maybe find a free rearm pad using enumStructure()
// and use orderDroidObj instead?
orderDroidLoc(myDroid,DORDER_REARM,myDrod.x,myDroid.y);

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 10:54**

Hopefully fixed issue with sensors. I was sure howitzers require CB towers

Also, having a bit of rework in defenses code and making plans for ~Turtle~ personality

The issue with VTOLs is nasty. It looks like armed property is set to NaN for VTOL machineguns and cannons, but not for VTOL rockets and bombs

#3178 Will release something as soon as i find a fix.

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 13:06**

v0.20.

Changes:

Added CB towers to ~MC~, ~Generic~ and ~Flame~ research paths;
Removed Mk6 Hurricane damage upgrades from rocket research paths (cause they suddenly require a lot of cannon research), replaced by accuracy upgrades;
Hopefully fixed not-working cannon and machinegun VTOLs (they behaviour might still be weird though);
Finally fixed the excessive oil building (by too many trucks);

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 13:19**

How about adding a jummer sensor with AI mod & make him use it?

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 13:23**

That's a nice idea, at least when the AI is set to insane (that is, cheating anyway!). I would still like to keep a non-cheating AI around, but some funny features for higher difficulties might be interesting.

I would still try to keep the AI work fine on regular game. Currently, you can just unpack the AI package into mp/multiplay/skirmish and go host games with custom AI without anybody needing to download the mod. If i modify stats for the AI to work, this convenient feature will break.

Also, there seems to be some new input in investigating "missing template" messages and vanishing production queues.

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 18:35**

v0.20 is working great.

And, I started a game right after downloading it this morning, then had to go to work and forgot to close WZ. The game is still running after 5 hours of gametime (speed set to 5/4), although nullbot hasn't made it though any of my defences yet ...I practice extreme turtling (:

Some wide spectrum sensors & more arty might be worth investing in after 2+ hours of game time. With those it could probably have nuked a whole bunch of my defences while I wasn't looking. oh, and base upgrades so my return arty isn't as effective against yours.

EDIT: So I sent 100 VTOLs in to quickly finish off nullbot and, guess what... no AA defences!! (I was using the random personality and it had chosen MR personality)

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 19:10**

So I sent 100 VTOLs in to quickly finish off nullbot and, guess what... no AA defences!! (I was using the random personality and it had chosen MR personality)

I believe you are on 3.1 beta2? Cause i didn't make use of the .name property yet

oh, and base upgrades so my return arty isn't as effective against yours.

I think it does some base upgrades, though i'd have a closer look again tomorrow

By the way, it's hardcrete that is essential here, i think.

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 19:51**

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var canHitAir = ("canHitAir" in enumDroid()[0])
   ? function(obj) { return obj.canHitAir; }
   : function(obj) {
        if (obj.name.indexOf("AA ")>-1) return true;
        if (obj.name.indexOf("SAM ")>-1) return true;
        if (obj.name.indexOf("Vindicator")>-1) return true;
        if (obj.name.indexOf("Whirlwhind")>-1) return true;
        if (obj.name.indexOf("Avenger")>-1) return true;
        if (obj.name.indexOf("Stormbringer")>-1) return true;
     };

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 19:53**

As for base upgrades, the walls stuff only upgrades walls - you need the base structure materials upgrades (which rely on walls upgrades) to make defences stronger, particularly arty and missiles.

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 19:58**

Thanks, will use the code

aubergine wrote:As for base upgrades, the walls stuff only upgrades walls - you need the base structure materials upgrades (which rely on walls upgrades) to make defences stronger, particularly arty and missiles.

The guide disagrees with you

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 21:26**

Wow, I never realised that - I always thought it was base structure materials that made those stronger. Cool!

EDIT: OMG, none of the defences use base structure materials! There's literally no point ever to upgrade base structure materials

I was always upgrading walls just to get base structure upgrades, all that wasted power and research time!!

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 21:32**

Code snippet above updated.

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 21:41**

but all defenses upgrade with walls

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 21:42**

aubergine wrote:EDIT: OMG, none of the defences use base structure materials! There's literally no point ever to upgrade base structure materials I was always upgrading walls just to get base structure upgrades, all that wasted power and research time!!

The main point of them is to keep your base alive for a while when it suddenly gets visited by 3 or 4 enemy assault gun cyborg partisans. Just a few base upgrades can really save the day in this case. Also makes the base and derricks a bit stronger against lancer VTOLs. In 2.3 it used to be a bit more important, because at some point you could shoot from behind your own buildings, while they absorb enemy fire. Anyway, strategies that rely on base structure upgrades are usually completely opposite to turtling.

Posted: **16 Feb 2012, 15:00**

v0.21.

Changes:

Adaptation to enemy VTOLs hopefully works in 3.1 now;
Now tries to defend derricks that were actually destroyed in the past, proportionally to the amount of times they were rebuilt, instead of building defenses randomly;
Now adapts to particular players (will send mostly machineguns against a mostly-cyborg opponent, even though some other enemy may produce mostly tanks; not sure it's effective, but worth a try)
~Flame~ personality now demolishes the original factory when borg factories are up and running but hovers aren't ready yet; also, its build order and research path were modified a little;

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