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Cheaters

Post by Bruta18 » 27 Jun 2012, 19:07

As many people know there are a lot of cheaters in version 2.3.9 so I would like to make this the official page to put down the possible cheaters that are currently playing in 2.3.9.

I will start off this list:

Cheaters:

1. Taco
2. Matrx
3. negro
4. CASTROTROY
5. Aletux

If anyone has info on anyone else cheating in this version you can either contact me or put it down in a reply.

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Re: Cheaters

Post by Jorzi » 28 Jun 2012, 09:32

How about playing 3.1?
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Re: Cheaters

Post by NoQ » 28 Jun 2012, 11:24

Also, are you a good enough player to know exactly whether someone is cheating or is just playing better than you? Why should i trust your list?

Also, what's the point of the list when anybody can change the name any time?

Also, what's the point of playing with anybody who can change the name any time? Why don't just come to IRC and play with real people rather than those anonymous randoms?

Also, how can you be sure somebody doesn't put up your name and cheat, and you get into this list yourself because of that?

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Re: Cheaters

Post by Reg312 » 28 Jun 2012, 20:13

NoQ wrote: Also, what's the point of playing with anybody who can change the name any time? Why don't just come to IRC and play with real people rather than those anonymous randoms?
IRC is dead chat, 80% bots...
irc games happen rare


what the point of playing with anybody who have constant name any time?

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Re: Cheaters

Post by NoQ » 28 Jun 2012, 20:17

80% bots...
??? I'm aware of only one, everybody else is real.

Also, you must be coming in a wrong time; we should be there in our evening, when i'm there at this time i never have a problem finding games (and i do follow my advice, not playing any non-pre-arranged games).
what the point of playing with anybody who have constant name any time?
Not a "constant" name, but a "registered" name that always marks him and possesses a reputation, unlike an in-game name. Feel the difference? Imagine what would happen to the forum if you hide all ways of finding out whether these two messages are written by the same person?

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Re: Cheaters

Post by Reg312 » 28 Jun 2012, 20:21

NoQ wrote:and i do follow my advice, not playing any non-pre-arranged games).
i dont see any positive meaning in your advice..
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Re: Cheaters

Post by NoQ » 28 Jun 2012, 20:26

Some of your marks are clearly false positives (i played a lot of games with Fastdeath and probably even have a video, he was our active webmaster at some point), clearly Kevin is a human if kevinsbot is a bot, Chanserv is a global freenode entity (i wouldn't count him). Ok, i'd agree on "two bots", but even if you were right about all of them, this doesn't make 80%.
i dont see any positive meaning in your advice..
Then you didn't suffer enough of being called a cheater on the tenth minute in five 1x1 matches in a row with random different people yet ...

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Re: Cheaters

Post by Reg312 » 28 Jun 2012, 20:31

NoQ wrote:Not a "constant" name, but a "registered" name that always marks him and possesses a reputation, unlike an in-game name. Feel the difference? Imagine what would happen to the forum if you hide all ways of finding out whether these two messages are written by the same person?
still dont see positive meaning...
1) random games are less predictable
2) random forum messages can be read with more correct mmm.. estimation?


NoQ wrote:Some of your marks are clearly false positives (i played a lot of games with Fastdeath and probably even have a video,
i played with fastdeath.. it was summer 2011.. so he is bot last year
NoQ wrote: Then you didn't suffer enough of being called a cheater five 1x1 matches in a row yet ..
seems your mind was a bit damaged in that 5 games :P
i play with random players, i play under random name... i have fun and even have more fun when someone call me cheater

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Re: Cheaters

Post by NoQ » 28 Jun 2012, 20:41

so he is bot last year
Please confirm that you know what is a bot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_R ... quote]even have more fun when someone call me cheater[/quote]Even if you find yourself in the first message of this thread some day?
random forum messages can be read with more correct mmm.. estimation?
No, it's just you can say whatever you care to imagine, any wrong info, any stupid advice, and nobody will know it was you when you write your next message. That's a trolling paradise. And that's exactly the situation in the online lobby, with the following difference: you can do more bad things than just talking crap in an online game. You can also cheat, you can quit randomly, you can insult players and flood the games with foul language, you can suddenly go shopping during the game without your team knowing it unless seeing you not moving for the last 20 minutes. Still without anybody being able to recognize you in the next game, without any consequences for you. Seen that many times, had enough of that.
random games are less predictable
I have to disagree. They are more predictable. Your opponent is a noob and will die on the 10th minute of the game in 90% cases; in 9% more cases he will quit on the first minute, and you'll never find him to ask what happened. Is this "less predictable" than an actual match of two equally skilled players who know each other?
seems your mind was a bit damaged in that 5 games
That wasn't just once, that was happening repeatedly and constantly for quite a while.

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Re: Cheaters

Post by Reg312 » 28 Jun 2012, 21:39

stop arguing.. it was just my opinion
your words sound a bit snobbish for me: "non-IRC games = crap", hold on
i like random games from time to time
rules like "play only IRC arranged games"...are you trolling? :)
IRC is only 20% of all players in warzone MP
and i dont think this 20% is best players or best people
they create uneven teams, they suspect in cheating good players, they out games before end etc.

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Re: Cheaters

Post by NoQ » 29 Jun 2012, 05:15

No, i'm just trying to save people from the suffering i've been through. I really wish somebody told me that a year before i realized myself.

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Re: Cheaters

Post by Iluvalar » 29 Jun 2012, 05:29

I don't have those problems any more since I cheat to detect who is cheating.

But out of 3 games today, I found a cheater :(
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Re: Cheaters

Post by War2070 » 29 Jun 2012, 22:43

Who wants a cookie ?

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Re: Cheaters

Post by JDW » 29 Jun 2012, 22:58

Out of the list, tomaw and marinez are freenode staff. And I played with Fastdeath[BDC] a week ago.
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Re: Cheaters

Post by Searge-Major » 30 Jun 2012, 03:12

Just want to say, cheating is a very serious matter, and while I do not deny that there are quite a few cheaters in 2.3.9, I would like to point out that it can be a very fine line knowing what is cheating and what is merely a desync. Not that I'm saying any of these people listed are/are not cheaters, just saying: tread carefully, reputations are too easy to ruin, and very hard to repair...

Lecture over. :lecture:
JDW wrote:... And I played with Fastdeath[BDC] a week ago.
:shock: He's still around? :D

Speaking of which, I haven't exactly been active recently... :(
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Just one? :wink:

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