Models by Alpha93

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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Lord Apocalypse » 24 Oct 2013, 01:14

Nice work

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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Alpha93 » 24 Oct 2013, 03:31

Eyecandy on my next project, hipoly WIP version
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Jorzi » 24 Oct 2013, 08:35

Great stuff :)
One thing you might want to try out is modeling with subsurf modifier and creases. (If you want to check it out on google, search for "subdivision surfaces")
I've used both methods, of course. Polygon modeling with edgesplit modifier for the walls & hardpoints, and subsurf for most turrets.
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Alpha93 » 26 Oct 2013, 22:01

!UPDATE!
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Jorzi » 27 Oct 2013, 15:09

Nice progress, but how come you always abandon the smooth shading + edgesplit and end up using only flat shading?
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Alpha93 » 27 Oct 2013, 15:19

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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Jorzi » 27 Oct 2013, 17:03

Thanks :) Of course it's not such a huge matter while you are still modeling, but it really does produce a much nicer normal map bake imo.
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Alpha93 » 27 Oct 2013, 17:04

Which is exactly the issue I'm currently having, I tried to bake the NM but applied to the low poly comes out as nothing short of crappy.
Edit: fixed some of it, was related to image sampling not set to normal map.
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Not exactly the best result, I'll eventually paint out the artifacts.
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NM + AO
I'm also trying to AO Map w/ Selected to Active option and the result looks quite good, I might iron out the issues if I deem it timeworthy. Definitely not timeworthy because the barrels are hexes while they would've needed to be octagons to reach the detail level I want.
Edit2: I'll probably split the turret and the barrels, since the turret model is used by all of the cam 2 AA weapons.

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Improved the low poly + essentially correct AO mapped and Normal mapped. Artifacts are mainly due to bevels on the hipoly and I really have no idea of how to fix them.. Guess I'll try to mess around with the models' dimensions.
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@Jorzi: that reminded me I hadn't done the correct NM for the HPV (Hipoly was flatshaded and edges weren't split). I've redone it and I'll send it to you.
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Alpha93 » 29 Oct 2013, 01:45

Huge thanks to Jorzi (gotta tell me what kind of sorcery you did):
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Post by Jorzi » 29 Oct 2013, 14:03

It's a craft, and unfortunately there's no quick way to learn it. I wish I could show you my tricks face-to-face, since they are a bit hard to explain, but I'll try to go through some points once I have more time :)
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Alpha93 » 03 Nov 2013, 20:38

Started working on my next project while I wait to see cnceo's textures for the whirlwind

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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Alpha93 » 04 Nov 2013, 20:51

Added what I'm supposing to be the target tracking radar.
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Jorzi » 05 Nov 2013, 17:59

Nice progress :)
A few things to think about for the details: The turrets are probably not milled out of one solid steel block, so there will be some kind of segmentation/welding and other kinds of seams, bolts etc. Now in reality, these details would probably not be visible at warzone range, but since it is a game, it gives more visual appeal to make them exaggerated enough to show up at long range (see my python & tracks for ideas).
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Re: Models by Alpha93

Post by Alpha93 » 05 Nov 2013, 18:09

I assume most of nowadays turrets are made by melting steel into stamps which have the holes for screws and bolts, usually around the hatches and even then I assume that the lower part of the hatch is made from the same stamp as the turret's. Welding doesn't seem like a good idea for anything but the gun barrel because if the tank takes a hit there'd be a risk that welds/bolts/screws would outright come out of their place (see: Spalling) and kill the crew unless some kind of spall liner is employed. And the game's tanks are manned, as we already know.

Perhaps you might like something like this

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Post by Duha » 05 Nov 2013, 18:50

Alpha93 wrote:I assume most of nowadays turrets are made by melting steel into stamps which have the holes for screws and bolts, usually around the hatches and even then I assume that the lower part of the hatch is made from the same stamp as the turret's. Welding doesn't seem like a good idea for anything but the gun barrel because if the tank takes a hit there'd be a risk that welds/bolts/screws would outright come out of their place (see: Spalling) and kill the crew unless some kind of spall liner is employed. And the game's tanks are manned, as we already know.
If you mean tank turrets it uses stamps with welding around hatches.
Gun barrel never use welding.
Tank turret is not connected to armor. If you turn tank up-down it will fall off. :)
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