Power #4 Paranoia

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by NoQ » 17 Jul 2012, 16:58

I think that even i had explained enough in this thread. Ok, i repeat again if you want.
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This is the complete info i'm aware of, based on my talking to both sides' representatives. Is there anything new in this? I think i already told most of it in my posts in this thread.

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Iluvalar » 17 Jul 2012, 17:13

Thank you NoQ.
NoQ wrote:I think i already told most of it in my posts in this thread.
Well, I don't see it here, nor in any thread that is public. unless you could point me it ?
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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by NoQ » 17 Jul 2012, 17:18

Emm sorry, maybe not in #4 in fact after all :oops: Anyway, i'm sure i said things like "he was warned many months ago" etc ...

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Per » 17 Jul 2012, 17:28

Iluvalar wrote:So nothing wrong that deserve an explanation happened in that topic ?
You had the explanation available for days before the whole thread was deleted.

If you have idea of what happened, see NoQ's explanation. But if you think you can engage staff in a public debate over particular moderation decisions, then you are wrong. It does not, and cannot, work that way.

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Lord Apocalypse » 17 Jul 2012, 17:52

As I have seen, and as it should be. Admin/Mods debate other Admin/Mods. Users take up discussion with said Admin/Mods against actions, though these discussions quickly attract trolls and flamers.

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Paul » 17 Jul 2012, 19:12

:shakehead:
those who are observant saw the writing on the wall and the fallout became evident today.
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to the rest of the brown nosers in this thread way to go asswipes.

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Iluvalar » 17 Jul 2012, 21:33

Per wrote: But if you think you can engage staff in a public debate over particular moderation decisions, then you are wrong. It does not, and cannot, work that way.
You are right on this one. It can't work this way.

Either :
A) Moderators act with a behavior that is not subject to debate.
B) You use dictatorship and hide informations to people.

I'm not debating about the decision to stop the tournament. And if you read correctly, I don't believe zydonk do it either. I don't care about D. at all. And I dont care about the tournament I was not even in it. I'm complaining about the way the decision was executed : Trough censorship.

I don't know were you come from, but in my culture, it's widely accepted that the rare benefits from censorship do not worth to accept it existence in the first place. I will not even argue about if it was right or not in this case, I'm complaining it's wrong all the way around.

I hope you understand that.
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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Per » 17 Jul 2012, 23:54

Iluvalar wrote:I hope you understand that.
Yes. Your concern has been noted.

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Reg312 » 18 Jul 2012, 11:52

from my point of view problem was in lack of justification, but NoQ managed to formulate this justification
we are bad guys from tournament's organizers and we bypassed the rules :)
turned to dark side and twisted by D. guy :roll:
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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by zydonk » 18 Jul 2012, 12:04

Iluvalar: It was the way in which the decision was announced that irked me. Even then, I could see there was justification for the shut down, though I would have been happier with a more explicit explanation.

The point now is to see that this kind of high handed behaviour doesn't happen again. As Per argues, we can't change the past, only learn from it.

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Andrie » 18 Jul 2012, 13:35

NoQ wrote:
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Interesting story. :) Bad fight. :Gigakach_01:
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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by NoQ » 18 Jul 2012, 18:16

allowing to create thread on forum with tournament's result
Yeah, that's sort of enough. It was known that such thread will only be allowed if certain conditions are fulfilled.
why game developers can dictate the rules of how to play and what players able to play
They don't. You still play, right? Only the forum thread part was affected.

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Reg312 » 18 Jul 2012, 18:37

NoQ wrote:
why game developers can dictate the rules of how to play and what players able to play
They don't. You still play, right? Only the forum thread part was affected.
technically is harder/impossible to disallow people to play warzone :)
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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Paul » 18 Jul 2012, 19:23

Reg312 wrote: 2. mr.D said his name also banned in lobby, he cannot create hosts under his D-name
Don't post messages for banned individuals. Don't hack into any part of the site.
now we know who is hacking the site and we also know you are willingly breaking the rules, yet this thread remains. :roll:

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Re: Power #4 Paranoia

Post by Giani » 18 Jul 2012, 22:20

Paul wrote:
Reg312 wrote: 2. mr.D said his name also banned in lobby, he cannot create hosts under his D-name
Don't post messages for banned individuals. Don't hack into any part of the site.
now we know who is hacking the site...
What? Nobody hacked the site. It was being improved.
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