Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by cybersphinx » 28 Jan 2010, 00:02

crux wrote:like that sound crash, it is 100% repeatable 100% of the time. how does that slip through?
You mean the crash on exit? That didn't happen on Linux, where most development happens.

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by crux » 28 Jan 2010, 00:10

cybersphinx wrote:
crux wrote:like that sound crash, it is 100% repeatable 100% of the time. how does that slip through?
You mean the crash on exit? That didn't happen on Linux, where most development happens.
It doesn't?
who tests the windows builds then?
is that the main problem, no pre release testing?

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by cybersphinx » 28 Jan 2010, 00:34

crux wrote:who tests the windows builds then?
is that the main problem, no pre release testing?
I do a short test in a virtual machine, but that's just "runs, makes a crashdump, ok", since the VM is sloooooow... I'm not aware of anyone actually testing 2.3 SVN on Windows.

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by Zarel » 28 Jan 2010, 01:25

I tested it on Windows 7 x64 - a 5-player game on MizaMaze (4 humans vs 1 human + 3 AIs). It did not crash upon exit.

(The AIs won, too, after we defeated the human allied with them... they're getting pretty strong lately.)

However, it is true that we rarely test our betas before release. We don't have any testers. :( We would love it if you could test for us, though. :)

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by crux » 28 Jan 2010, 02:07

Zarel wrote:I tested it on Windows 7 x64 - a 5-player game on MizaMaze (4 humans vs 1 human + 3 AIs). It did not crash upon exit.

(The AIs won, too, after we defeated the human allied with them... they're getting pretty strong lately.)

However, it is true that we rarely test our betas before release. We don't have any testers. :( We would love it if you could test for us, though. :)
run the game and quit it
that is all that needs to be done.
what is the breakdown for the current developers?
how many have windows or macs or linux machines?

for testing I don't see where you guys communicate when everything is getting ready to push it out the door?
normally there is talk of a freeze then a tag then build but I just see release announcements?

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by cybersphinx » 28 Jan 2010, 02:36

Ok, so we have no one testing on Windows with the exact same configuration as is in the installer. And since the exit crash seems to depend on the exact OpenAL version used, we didn't notice it even when quitting the game.

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by Zarel » 28 Jan 2010, 02:53

crux wrote:run the game and quit it
that is all that needs to be done.
Nope, no crash.
crux wrote:what is the breakdown for the current developers?
how many have windows or macs or linux machines?
Breakdown for current developers is:

Per: Linux
Cybersphinx: Linux
Cyp: Linux
Safety0ff: Linux
Zarel: Mac OS X
dak180: Mac OS X
crux wrote:for testing I don't see where you guys communicate when everything is getting ready to push it out the door?
normally there is talk of a freeze then a tag then build but I just see release announcements?
Well, we currently already do that on IRC. Where do you suppose that should be done - the forums? The mailing list?

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by crux » 28 Jan 2010, 05:05

Zarel wrote: Breakdown for current developers is:

Per: Linux
Cybersphinx: Linux
Cyp: Linux
Safety0ff: Linux
Zarel: Mac OS X
dak180: Mac OS X
I thought you said you tested with windows 7?
l didn't think there were no windows developers O_o
crux wrote:for testing I don't see where you guys communicate when everything is getting ready to push it out the door?
normally there is talk of a freeze then a tag then build but I just see release announcements?
Well, we currently already do that on IRC. Where do you suppose that should be done - the forums? The mailing list?
forums / e-mail is too slow for that stuff
yes it should be on IRC but since nobody knows what is going on in that channel without being there then we can't tell when a new release has entered the lockdown stage so we can test it.

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by fizyxnrd » 28 Jan 2010, 05:11

If it helps, 2.3b8 installed beautifully "out of the box" on Vista 32 for me. Zero issues.

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by Zarel » 28 Jan 2010, 05:29

crux wrote:I thought you said you tested with windows 7?
l didn't think there were no windows developers O_o
Buginator and i-NoD are Windows developers, but they're inactive.

I just happened to test with Windows 7 that day, but I'm usually on Mac OS X.
crux wrote:forums / e-mail is too slow for that stuff
yes it should be on IRC but since nobody knows what is going on in that channel without being there then we can't tell when a new release has entered the lockdown stage so we can test it.
I suppose we could announce on #warzone2100 as well, but no one would test it, anyway. :/ Isn't that what betas are for? Testing?

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by crux » 28 Jan 2010, 05:39

Zarel wrote:
crux wrote:forums / e-mail is too slow for that stuff
yes it should be on IRC but since nobody knows what is going on in that channel without being there then we can't tell when a new release has entered the lockdown stage so we can test it.
I suppose we could announce on #warzone2100 as well, but no one would test it, anyway. :/ Isn't that what betas are for? Testing?
I mean most of these issues could have (should have) been spotted before a beta release.
http://developer.wz2100.net/roadmap says you have 43 hours left for 2.3 and unless there is someone riding in on a white bug slaying horse I don't see how that is possible.

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by Zarel » 28 Jan 2010, 05:56

crux wrote:I mean most of these issues could have (should have) been spotted before a beta release.
How? I really don't know...
crux wrote:http://developer.wz2100.net/roadmap says you have 43 hours left for 2.3 and unless there is someone riding in on a white bug slaying horse I don't see how that is possible.
Heh, you're right. I've postponed it by a month.

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by Berg » 28 Jan 2010, 07:05

I have 2 operating systems Ubuntu and XP
all the beta versions none have crashed in xp
they have bugs but no crashing no sound issues
On the Ubuntu box no crashes unless you call a freese on exit a crash ....which is not a warzone probelem its ubuntu problem with pulseaudio ...if you remove that from the system warzone runs and closed without trouble...
If crashes are 100% of the time how come I've never seen it?
crux wrote:cybersphinx wrote:

crux wrote:like that sound crash, it is 100% repeatable 100% of the time. how does that slip through?

You mean the crash on exit? That didn't happen on Linux, where most development happens.


Sorry but Im getting annoyed with the trivial nature of these topics and the clutching at straw to try and push an invalid point to extremes ...I feel some data put on the forum is a waste of space ...lets get back to constructive forum.

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Re: Please test the 2.3 beta releases!

Post by Korusray » 29 Jan 2010, 02:36

if yall need windows testers ill gladly help out...got WAY too much freetime on my hands lately xD
wut with work cutting hours and such ><

but ya i'd love to help out just gimme the req's and well ya

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