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Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by warpi » 13 Aug 2010, 00:10

Hello,

It would be lovely if you could link to the .deb package instead of to the source at wz2100. In this way, it will be much easier for linux gamers to just click on the link and start playing.

Thanks!

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by WarTux » 13 Aug 2010, 07:09

warpi wrote:It would be lovely if you could link to the .deb package instead of to the source at wz2100. In this way, it will be much easier for linux gamers to just click on the link and start playing.
The current *.deb packages available for Warzone 2100 are out of date- they're at 2.2.4, we're at 2.3.4!

Currently, none of our developers have the knowledge (and/or will) to build *.deb packages- besides, we are releasing new versions so rapidly that the extra effort may not be worth it.
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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by warpi » 13 Aug 2010, 11:04

Maybe its possible to create a script that automatically builds the .deb files and push them onto internet?

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by cybersphinx » 13 Aug 2010, 11:12

Oh, I built some for 2.3.2/2.3.3 (see http://developer.wz2100.net/wiki/LinuxC ... tuPackages), but since they can't be linked from the download page, not many people found them, so I didn't do it this time. (Also, I can build 64 bit only at the moment, not sure how many people are still using 32 bit though.)

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by JDW » 13 Aug 2010, 11:17

warpi wrote:It would be lovely if you could link to the .deb package instead of to the source at wz2100. In this way, it will be much easier for linux gamers to just click on the link and start playing.
What would be even better is if Ubuntu/Debian had the latest version in their package repositories, they do however have the 2.3.3-1 version.

If you google for Debian Packages you will find this page.

Somewhere in the middle of that page, there is a search box. Type in Warzone2100 , and change the Distribution field to "any". Click Search. That will give you these results.

If you click on sid(unstable) in the 'Exact hits' section, that will take you here.. You will see links to the deb file downloads for 2.3.3-1 at the end of that page. The same page has also got the list of maintainers, one of which is the Debian Games Team.

However, you're looking for 2.3.4. So you could contact the Debain Games Team to see how you could help them to get 2.3.4 as a deb release that everyone else could enjoy. My suggestion is that you offer to help them get it done rather than to request them to package it for you.

Since you seem to care so much for the Linux users, why not learn to package deb files for them? Someone's got to do it, why not you? After all, open source works because someone wants to make something nice and share it with others to have. If you see anything that the community can use, then you should make it for them to enjoy. :)

Now don't give me that "But I don't how to code" or "I just know how to use the mouse". Packaging is much simpler than you think it is. Talk to the maintainers and they'll guide you in the right direction.
warpi wrote:Maybe its possible to create a script that automatically builds the .deb files and push them onto internet?
That could work. You would need to ask the Debian team though, IMHO.
EDIT:Whoops!! Sorry, didn't see cybersphinx's post immediately above this one. Looks like there are some scripts already.
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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by cybersphinx » 13 Aug 2010, 11:34

j0shdrunk0nwar wrote:However, you're looking for 2.3.4. So you could contact the Debain Games Team to see how you could help them to get 2.3.4 as a deb release that everyone else could enjoy. My suggestion is that you offer to help them get it done rather than to request them to package it for you.
Since Debian is in a freeze to prepare for the next release, it's more a "convince the release team that 2.3.4 is a necessary update, so they make an exception for it", then Pabs will upload it.

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by JDW » 13 Aug 2010, 11:57

cybersphinx wrote:Since Debian is in a freeze to prepare for the next release, it's more a "convince the release team that 2.3.4 is a necessary update, so they make an exception for it", then Pabs will upload it.
That's good to hear :D

I just didn't want them getting annoyed over a request for something to be done. And there's no loss to Warpi if he learns something that he could use in future as well. Right Warpi? :)
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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by warpi » 13 Aug 2010, 12:32

j0shdrunk0nwar: haha, nice avatar you are using :)

I completely agree, i just wanted to talk about the issue and hopefully something good will come out from it :)

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by Zarel » 13 Aug 2010, 23:21

The main problem with providing debs is that debs aren't really a good package system, from what I hear. For instance, you need a different .deb for each version of the OS, etc.

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by warpi » 13 Aug 2010, 23:57

So, what is the solution then? :)

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by Zarel » 14 Aug 2010, 00:07

Solution: We provide source code, and anyone who wants a dev can use playdeb or something. <_<

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by NoQ » 14 Aug 2010, 00:11

The main problem with providing debs is that debs aren't really a good package system, from what I hear. For instance, you need a different .deb for each version of the OS, etc.
Hmm, i've heard the same thing about rpms, and debs were just supposed to have the same format for all deb-based OSes. Am i wrong to believe in it?

Well, you shall need a different warzone for each version of the OS, but it's not about deb, but just about different library versions, isn't it?

Just curious (:

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by Zarel » 14 Aug 2010, 00:17

hao wrote:Hmm, i've heard the same thing about rpms, and debs were just supposed to have the same format for all deb-based OSes. Am i wrong to believe in it?

Well, you shall need a different warzone for each version of the OS, but it's not about deb, but just about different library versions, isn't it?

Just curious (:
Yeah. It's the usual "dependency hell" problem.

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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by noccy » 16 Aug 2010, 22:13

Debian packages of 2.3.4 built on Ubuntu 10.04 for i386 can be grabbed from here :)

You can also add the repository by putting the following line at the bottom of your /etc/apt/sources.list file:

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deb http://files.noccy.com/ubuntu lucid main
You also need to import the key used for signing or you will get errors when updating:

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wget http://noccy.com/files/signing@noccy.asc
sudo apt-key add signing@noccy.asc
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Re: Link to .deb package instead of source

Post by a clever user name » 21 Aug 2010, 12:19

hao wrote:
The main problem with providing debs is that debs aren't really a good package system, from what I hear. For instance, you need a different .deb for each version of the OS, etc.
Hmm, i've heard the same thing about rpms, and debs were just supposed to have the same format for all deb-based OSes. Am i wrong to believe in it?

Well, you shall need a different warzone for each version of the OS, but it's not about deb, but just about different library versions, isn't it?

Just curious (:

RPM allows packaging 32-bit and 64-bit binaries in the same .rpm file, deb does not. Mainly this is because Debian can't come up with a working multi-arch solution.

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