54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by cathuria » 20 Dec 2007, 00:52

Haven't forgotten -- just been a tad busy... but I wanted to add a little something to make more of a scene out of it for a menu screen.  So I thought I's model a quick, simple... um, okay, so I might have lost track of the 'simple' bit while I was modeling, so sue me...
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I'll get to work on the actual scene soon, I'm sure...  :)

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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by doom3r » 20 Dec 2007, 00:55

That's very nice too. You should put that in the background with some other tank near it [maybe with the other part of the pepperpot battery, making the whole scene look better]

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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by HCN-Trooper » 20 Dec 2007, 15:43

cathuria, do you use 3DS max? or what program else?

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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by cathuria » 20 Dec 2007, 16:59

HCN-Trooper: Modo is my current tool of choice; it's still a growing app and is missing a few features that I would really like, but it is hands down the most efficient modeler I've ever used... plus its lightning fast renderer.
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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by cathuria » 26 Dec 2007, 06:39

I's back... you know, trying to compose a picture around a big-butt menu in the middle of everything is a bit perplexing.  I may have to take a few more stabs at it.
Anyhow, here is my first attempt at a menu screen -- let me know how you think it works (or doesn't).

http://www.cathuria.com/improbable/pepperpot2-bdrop.png

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Post by lav_coyote25 » 26 Dec 2007, 06:56

on this monitor on xp sp 2 = looks good.  chose the stretch background mode.... is a little blurred but still looks good.
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Post by Kamaze » 26 Dec 2007, 19:11

Under what license do/would you put these images?
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Post by cathuria » 27 Dec 2007, 17:49

Kamaze wrote: Under what license do/would you put these images?
Well, that bdrop image I just posted was published without authorship or copyright claim on it, and I don't do that by accident; call it Art Libre if you like.
As for the first image in this thread... to tell the truth, I hadn't really thought about it -- but as I said earlier, I'm happy to let the image be used to promote the WRP.  Geez, there are so many licenses... put it this way: what did you have in mind?

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Post by EvilGuru » 27 Dec 2007, 18:42

cathuria wrote: Well, that bdrop image I just posted was published without authorship or copyright claim on it, and I don't do that by accident; call it Art Libre if you like.
As for the first image in this thread... to tell the truth, I hadn't really thought about it -- but as I said earlier, I'm happy to let the image be used to promote the WRP.  Geez, there are so many licenses... put it this way: what did you have in mind?
We tend to like the GNU GPL (any version) or the Creative Commons (BY-SA) http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/ however any reasonably permissive license should be fine :)

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Post by Chojun » 27 Dec 2007, 21:10

The GPL is not suitable for anything other than source code.
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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by DevUrandom » 27 Dec 2007, 21:32

It can be interpreted for data as well. The requirement then would be that a lossless image (i.e. PNG, but not JPEG) is provided. Better in this case would even be if the 3D modeler scene would be provided. It's really mostly an interpretation thing.
But I agree that using CC BY-SA 3.0 would be easier to apply and would require less material ("sourcecode") from the artist.

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Post by kage » 27 Dec 2007, 22:47

i believe the interpretation is distinguished based on *what* you're releasing under gpl. if you release the *image*, then the scene data is not required, as someone could still edit the image and rerelease it.

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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by cathuria » 28 Dec 2007, 04:14

I'm with DevUrandom -- no way am I getting involved in figuring out what amounts to 'source code' for digital art :P

So, I've been reading up on all that Creative Commons stuff... yeesh, you guys made me do homework!

I have an inclination that something provided for free should remain free, but I see some disagreement over the impact and fairness of the "Non-Commercial" restriction in a license (-by -nc -sa).  What's your folks' thoughts on that?

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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by DevUrandom » 28 Dec 2007, 11:25

Don't count my word on this, but I think that NC also prevents distribution-for-payment, like done by some Linux distros, game-magazines, etc... Possibly someone knows that better than me, though.

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Re: 54 thousand polys -- take that, real-time game engine!

Post by cybersphinx » 28 Dec 2007, 17:48

DevUrandom wrote:Don't count my word on this, but I think that NC also prevents distribution-for-payment, like done by some Linux distros, game-magazines, etc... Possibly someone knows that better than me, though.
Yes, that's exactly the problem with it, the licence text forbids any use "that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation" (whatever that may mean exactly, but it is not as permissive as the GPL).

CC BY-SA corresponds roughly to the GPL, that's why I think we should limit the "main" game to those two licences (stuff under other licences can still be offered separately), to keep the licencing somewhat simple.
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