Ridiculously Fast Construction
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
So what if we have a truck and a cyborg engineer?
Maps | Tower Defense | NullBot AI | More NullBot AI | Scavs | More Scavs | Tilesets | Walkthrough | JSCam
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
huh ? I guess the cyborg engineer should be reduced the same way.NoQ wrote:So what if we have a truck and a cyborg engineer?
6 (truck) + 3 (borg) + 2 (bonus because something is building) = 11
instead of : 8 (truck) + 5 (borg) = 13
Heretic 2.3 improver and proud of it.
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
Ok nice, i see. So probably borg engineer should be reduced to 2 to keep its current construction speed when alone (?)
Now we need to look for a sort of balance between "starting the game by building same factory with two trucks" (or a lab) and "starting the game by building a separate factory by each of the truck" (or a factory and a lab or two labs).
Now we need to look for a sort of balance between "starting the game by building same factory with two trucks" (or a lab) and "starting the game by building a separate factory by each of the truck" (or a factory and a lab or two labs).
Maps | Tower Defense | NullBot AI | More NullBot AI | Scavs | More Scavs | Tilesets | Walkthrough | JSCam
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
Well, if that bonus is implemented in the game, and the devs ask me gently, I could find the perfect tuning for that. So with the bonus, both options would be decent.
Heretic 2.3 improver and proud of it.
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
Are you just making work for yourselves? What is wrong with building using all 15 trucks, if that is what someone wants to do? Trucks are just another resource, to be disposed as the player sees fit. After all, a truck building one thing cannot be building anything else.
This is angels on a pin stuff - as though there were no greater problems confronting WZ development.
This is angels on a pin stuff - as though there were no greater problems confronting WZ development.
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
To add to this: 15 trucks buildings 15 defence structures in a row one after another should finish later then 15 trucks each building one defence structure?
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
Why is the limit on construction units so low?
"My IRC en multiplay naam is Andrie"
Groete Andrie
Groete Andrie
- Stratadrake
- Trained
- Posts: 197
- Joined: 07 Sep 2008, 09:43
- Location: Pacific NW
- Contact:
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
Ever hear of "too many cooks" ? There is no actual truck limit in the current gameplay, and this is only talking about a max-trucks-per-build-target limit, not a "TOTAL trucks" limit.
Good luck trying to fit 15 trucks around your construction target (unless it's a factory). Beyond five or so trucks, adding more trucks to the same build target barely makes any dent in construction speed anyway - they'll only get in the way trying to jockey for position.What is wrong with building using all 15 trucks, if that is what someone wants to do?
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
No but, the mean amount of turret firing during that time is 7.5 if you build one after another and 0 if you build them with one truck each. If you build a factory and a research lab with 2 trucks together, you will end the building with a 3rd truck. that you wont have if you chose to spread the trucks.iap wrote:To add to this: 15 trucks buildings 15 defence structures in a row one after another should finish later then 15 trucks each building one defence structure?
Heretic 2.3 improver and proud of it.
- Stratadrake
- Trained
- Posts: 197
- Joined: 07 Sep 2008, 09:43
- Location: Pacific NW
- Contact:
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
That is, of course, the standard difference between spreading out tasks among individual units or focusing them together (which doesn't apply to just trucks - it applies to selecting targets in combat too): The end result is the same, but whatever happens in the meantime is different.
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
Of course!Iluvalar wrote:No but, the mean amount of turret firing during that time is 7.5 if you build one after another and 0 if you build them with one truck each. If you build a factory and a research lab with 2 trucks together, you will end the building with a 3rd truck. that you wont have if you chose to spread the trucks.iap wrote:To add to this: 15 trucks buildings 15 defence structures in a row one after another should finish later then 15 trucks each building one defence structure?
But shouldn't it be MY choice, and not some hard coded limit?
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
Not in 239.Stratadrake wrote:Ever hear of "too many cooks" ? There is no actual truck limit in the current gameplay, and this is only talking about a max-trucks-per-build-target limit, not a "TOTAL trucks" limit.
Good luck trying to fit 15 trucks around your construction target (unless it's a factory). Beyond five or so trucks, adding more trucks to the same build target barely makes any dent in construction speed anyway - they'll only get in the way trying to jockey for position.What is wrong with building using all 15 trucks, if that is what someone wants to do?
I'm speaking hypothetically here - player should be free to use his trucks as he wants, all of them at a go if he so desires.
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
Limiting the number of trucks to build something would be confusing UX because players would be wondering why they can't assign more trucks to something. I like the idea of "law of diminishing returns" if implemented correctly, because it's unobtrusive and a useful trick to learn for new players that they shouldn't throw all their trucks at one construction site.
"Dedicated to discovering Warzone artefacts, and sharing them freely for the benefit of the community."
-- https://warzone.atlassian.net/wiki/display/GO
-- https://warzone.atlassian.net/wiki/display/GO
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
No they wont, each building team would consist of 5 trucks in.Stratadrake wrote:Good luck trying to fit 15 trucks around your construction target (unless it's a factory). Beyond five or so trucks, adding more trucks to the same build target barely makes any dent in construction speed anyway - they'll only get in the way trying to jockey for position.
And I would want to have more.
"My IRC en multiplay naam is Andrie"
Groete Andrie
Groete Andrie
- Shadow Wolf TJC
- Regular
- Posts: 1047
- Joined: 16 Apr 2011, 05:12
- Location: Raleigh, NC
Re: Ridiculously Fast Construction
I'm for the idea of diminishing returns, though I'm not in favor of limiting how many trucks can work on a single building at a time. I mean, if I wanted to build something that's very expensive and time-consuming to build, such as, say, a fortress, Satellite Uplink, or LasSat Command Post, then I'd want to assign as many trucks as I have to get the job done quickly.
Creator of Warzone 2100: Contingency!
Founder of Wikizone 2100: http://wikizone2100.wikia.com/wiki/Wikizone_2100
Founder of Wikizone 2100: http://wikizone2100.wikia.com/wiki/Wikizone_2100