Classic Mode or Classic Mod?

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Classic Mode or Classic Mod?

Postby Watermelon » 14 Nov 2006, 22:31

I think lots of wz players want a 'Classic' mode in 2.0.x,they want a wz with upgraded gfx/sound,but zero changes to gameplay/game mechanics.

I had discussed with Kreuvf and gerard_ and few others about this 'Classic' idea,seems there are 2 viable option to do this:

1.Classic mode:
Some customizable option(s) in multiplayer/skirmish menu to enable/disable the gameplay features we recently added.

2.Classic mod:
A separate .wz file with 1.10 data etc

Personally I am lean towards Classic mode,since the new binaries might not support old format data anymore.

I have experimented with 'Classic mode' a bit,I added an option in multiplayer/skirmish menu(currently it uses the text and image of 'fog option',you can find it at bottom-left of the skirmish/multiplay screen) to enable/disable the multiple turret feature I added,seemed work as intended:
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Re: Classic Mode or Classic Mod?

Postby Kamaze » 14 Nov 2006, 22:47

I think, this could be possible with over mods 2.1 (which needs some time).
Or later, if we have a 'stable' mod interface, model format and scripting language.

And i think it will be for sure happen! (to keep the original gameplay)
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Re: Classic Mode or Classic Mod?

Postby DevUrandom » 15 Nov 2006, 00:39

My vote would be for a mod...

Dunno why 2.1 wont support the current data?
If you refer to my mail: I meant that I want to convert the metadata (eg .wrf, .lev, etc.) to a new format to support mods (and their dependencies) better. That wouldn't harm the current data as far as I thought of it till now.
What might be problematic would be old 3rd party maps/mods, but I could write some scripts to convert them.
Probably that could be done in Lua (which at that time will be embedded in WZ) so Warzone could do a on the fly conversion if it detects old mods (backup the old format mod and replace it with the new one). But this idea comes directly from utopia and depends tightly on the amount of time I have.
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Re: Classic Mode or Classic Mod?

Postby Watermelon » 15 Nov 2006, 10:12

I meant the changes to text files/source I made.

the format of few text data files are already changed,e.g assignweapons.txt:

old format:
[template name],[weapon],[player id]

new format:
[template name],[weapon1],[weapon2],[weapon3],[player id]

the loadSomestat function's 'scanf' is changed too,so the current cvs binary wont read 1.10 text data properly.
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Re: Classic Mode or Classic Mod?

Postby Troman » 15 Nov 2006, 10:30

I vote for Mod. Such features should be data driven. It is easier to maintain and more elegant.

We will have to add new txt files to hold some additional settings, like number of kills necessary to advance to the next experience level, since this is gonna get changed for sure in the future.

Watermelon wrote:I meant the changes to text files/source I made.

the format of few text data files are already changed,e.g assignweapons.txt:

old format:
[template name],[weapon],[player id]

new format:
[template name],[weapon1],[weapon2],[weapon3],[player id]

the loadSomestat function's 'scanf' is changed too,so the current cvs binary wont read 1.10 text data properly.


We can fill unused weapon slots with 0's, the way it is done with other txt files.
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Re: Classic Mode or Classic Mod?

Postby DevUrandom » 15 Nov 2006, 11:26

I agree with Troman. Old files can be converted.
I don't think anyone really wants to use the data from the original CD. They just want to have the same "things" in the game...
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