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Post by montetank » 20 Mar 2014, 00:18

4c-Montenegro.wz
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Hello everybody.
This is my very first map. "Montenegro" a 4-player-map (size 160/160). Symmetric. (some features not). 4 derricks at the base +28/terrain. But the scavs are the problem. There is a large scavenger presence at the center of the map on a very high plateau, controling 8 oils. Destroying them and claiming their oil is a top priority if you want to win.
I wanted to try everything what flame offers. Don`t watch to long at the design. I think it is ok. The most important thing for me is how to place the oil the oil. Thats my problem. To make it more interesting. It would be nice, if you have some ideas (more or less oil-and where to place. I will change).
I tested the map. Everything works without problems. I didn`t forgot the gateways.
And there where no invalid tiles/error messages after compiling.

If there's anything else that needs fixing, let me know.
The next maps are in work (250/250 arizona 9-player map) and a 5 player urban map. Both not symmetric.
But i must take care-my wife want to leave me :lol2:

Have fun
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Post by montetank » 20 Mar 2014, 00:28

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I forgot the Montenegro minpap-sorry.
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Post by Hesterax » 20 Mar 2014, 05:30

Thanks for the map, montetank.
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Post by montetank » 20 Mar 2014, 17:31

4c-MontenegroB.wz
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I have changed many things.
I have noticed, that something is going wrong in the map. It was easy to win against strong NullBot with the "sit, wait and research-strategy". The map with the size 160/160 for 4 players needs more oil.
--I have added 16 oil on the terrain and 2 more derricks on the plateau.
--I deleted the stupid water
--I deleted many trees, because NullBot seems to have a problem with the nature
--the scavs are now a little bit stronger
--advanced bases now with light defense

First time i lost a game against a team of 3 NullBots
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Post by Berg » 20 Mar 2014, 18:17

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Post by NoQ » 20 Mar 2014, 18:59

plateau, controling 8 oils
2 more derricks on the plateau.
I think it'd be much better to place those oils around the map borders (still far from angles, to fight for them).
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Post by montetank » 20 Mar 2014, 20:10

NoQ wrote:
plateau, controling 8 oils
2 more derricks on the plateau.
I think it'd be much better to place those oils around the map borders (still far from angles, to fight for them).
Spoiler:
Yes-you are right, NoQ. I read this link http://developer.wz2100.net/wiki/MappingTipsDesign
Do you have a concrete suggestion? It is my first map and i am thankful for all help and information. Perhaps you will find the time.
Thanks for your feedback
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Post by montetank » 02 Apr 2014, 17:05

4c-Iceage.wz
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As a snack between meals, because my 3-player map takes time--ICEAGE:
4-player symmetrical map (size 200/200) 6 derricks and 4 trucks/base. 11 oil/player on the terrain + 6 oil in the city. Total: 74 oil= 18,5 oil/ player. 8x2 oil on the towers only with hovers or transporters.

In the new Ice age the scavs captured a city with a large science center. They are now in possession of new wall-structures and weapons. But they are not strong enough. So-a short trip into the last green city with his worthwhile destinations (6 oil) could be a good idea.
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Post by montetank » 17 Apr 2014, 00:47

Playing with tangens and Pythagoras i tried to create a symmetrical 3-player map in vector design. The oil, Commandcentre are in an equilateral triangle. The gamerelevant chokepoints and the terrain nearly 95%. I don’t know, how to rotate the terrain 60 or 120 degrees-maybe a professionell map-maker will tell me some informations :lecture:
In the tests against strong NullBot I noticed, that they play better without gateways.

4 oils at base. 16 oil/terrain. It is very hard to defend the base, because the enemy has 4 possibilities to attack the base. One with hovers. The scavs are only with defense bunkers without units/factories. Against NullBot it makes more fun to play without the scav-bunkers. I have no chance to test the map against human players. Some feedback would be very nice.

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Re: montetanks`s maps

Post by NoQ » 17 Apr 2014, 04:17

In the tests against strong NullBot I noticed, that they play better without gateways.
On 3.1 NullBot does not consider gateways (lacks API to notice them).
I don’t know, how to rotate the terrain 60 or 120 degrees-maybe a professionell map-maker will tell me some informations
FlaME cannot do that of course :lol2:
But as for heightmap, your image editor should do that (eg. inkscape), and as for terraintype, it barely matters anyway (even nice to add color variety).

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Re: montetanks`s maps

Post by montetank » 17 Apr 2014, 13:14

NoQ wrote:On 3.1 NullBot does not consider gateways (lacks API to notice them).
Thats a new information for me. Thanks
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Re: montetanks`s maps

Post by montetank » 21 Apr 2014, 14:18

2-Player map with many chokepoints/passes. 4 oils/base,16/terrain = total 24 oil.
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Re: montetanks`s maps

Post by Hesterax » 22 Apr 2014, 11:04

Loved trefoil, great map with nice design. :)
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Post by montetank » 23 Apr 2014, 01:25

Hesterax wrote:Loved trefoil, great map with nice design. :)
Merci, Hesterax :)
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Post by NoQ » 23 Apr 2014, 18:43

montetank wrote:
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Excellent coloring, actually. That's the right way of painting rocky mountains for the new terrain renderer. Minimize gray, contrast snow and grass.
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But ... why? Why do something like that? Why not just always use cliff brush, like you did on the earlier maps? Those square patterns are easily visible and don't make sense.

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