Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by Delphinio » 12 Jan 2013, 17:33

nod18 wrote:Ok thanks,i found old 2.3.7 version, and in this version lancers got 304 dmg bug to, so its an old bug, its posible to me to modify this wepon in wz files somehow, some modding tools ?
This is a very old balance bug which already version 2.0.x had.
The problem here lies in the functions.txt.
2.x.x

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Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage01,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,30,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage02,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,60,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage03,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,90,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage04,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,120,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage05,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,150,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage06,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,180,0,0,0
1.10

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Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage01,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,10,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage02,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,20,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage03,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,30,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage04,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,40,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage05,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,50,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage06,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,60,0,0,0
The Weapon damage upgrades for the "SLOW ROCKET" type are just to high.

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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by NoQ » 12 Jan 2013, 18:04

Delphinio: just curious, do you have any idea why this happened and why nobody fixed that?
Maybe we just fix it, and probably even lancers won't be overpowered in campaign?

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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by Delphinio » 12 Jan 2013, 19:04

NoQ wrote:Delphinio: just curious, do you have any idea why this happened and why nobody fixed that?
Maybe we just fix it, and probably even lancers won't be overpowered in campaign?
Yep, thats a source code fail.
The source code stats were from version 1.05 and not 1.10.

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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by bendib » 12 Jan 2013, 19:08

If I recall correctly, even in multiplayer, a swarm of lancers hiding on a cliff will kick your butt. There may be a change, but it's been there for a very long time. I'll compare the stats in 1.0 to the stats in Legacy Alpha 2 and see if there is a discrepancy.
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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by bendib » 12 Jan 2013, 19:15

Just checked the stats for 1.10 and Legacy. They match. No change has occurred.

"stats/weapons.txt" in Legacy:

Rocket-LtA-T,Level All,100,500,250,1,10,5,GNMRCKTA.PIE,TRMRCKTA.PIE,FXMRocAt.PIE,FXMPLME.PIE,FXGRDexl.PIE,FXGRDexl.PIE,FXSSplsh.PIE,0,512,1152,50,60,1,2,2,120,160,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,1200,20,YES,KINETIC,SLOW ROCKET,DIRECT,ANTI TANK,180,90,-60,YES,NO,0,128,YES,50,0,0,1,0

"Stats/Weapons.txt" in 1.10:

Rocket-LtA-T,Level All,100,500,250,1,10,5,GNMRCKTA.PIE,TRMRCKTA.PIE,FXMRocAt.PIE,FXMPLME.PIE,FXGRDexl.PIE,FXGRDexl.PIE,FXSSplsh.PIE,0,512,1152,50,60,1,2,2,120,160,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,10,1200,20,YES,KINETIC,SLOW ROCKET,DIRECT,ANTI TANK,180,90,-60,YES,NO,0,128,YES,50,0,0,1

There is one extra digit for the Legacy version, but that's about it. It turns on or off penetration.
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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by bendib » 12 Jan 2013, 19:32

In addition, to quote the 1.10 copy of Functions.txt:

Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage01,ROCKET,0,0,0,30,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage02,ROCKET,0,0,0,60,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage03,ROCKET,0,0,0,90,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage04,ROCKET,0,0,0,120,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage05,ROCKET,0,0,0,150,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage06,ROCKET,0,0,0,180,0,0,0

I think pumpkin did this.
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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by Delphinio » 12 Jan 2013, 19:48

bendib wrote:In addition, to quote the 1.10 copy of Functions.txt:

Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage01,ROCKET,0,0,0,30,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage02,ROCKET,0,0,0,60,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage03,ROCKET,0,0,0,90,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage04,ROCKET,0,0,0,120,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage05,ROCKET,0,0,0,150,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage06,ROCKET,0,0,0,180,0,0,0

I think pumpkin did this.
Thats not a 1.10 copy of "Functions.txt". Do you know how to get a correct 1.10 copy?
Download 1.10 patch and extract "nov.wdg".
And yes, Pumpkin did this and patched it later.

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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by aubergine » 12 Jan 2013, 19:55

I have a load of 1.x files archived here if that's any use: https://warzone.atlassian.net/wiki/disp ... +Downloads
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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by bendib » 12 Jan 2013, 20:18

Delphinio wrote:
bendib wrote:In addition, to quote the 1.10 copy of Functions.txt:

Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage01,ROCKET,0,0,0,30,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage02,ROCKET,0,0,0,60,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage03,ROCKET,0,0,0,90,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage04,ROCKET,0,0,0,120,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage05,ROCKET,0,0,0,150,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage06,ROCKET,0,0,0,180,0,0,0

I think pumpkin did this.
Thats not a 1.10 copy of "Functions.txt". Do you know how to get a correct 1.10 copy?
Download 1.10 patch and extract "nov.wdg".
And yes, Pumpkin did this and patched it later.
I hate to contradict you, but it says 1.10 for the version when I run the executable Warzone.exe under wine... This is from 1.10.
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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by Delphinio » 12 Jan 2013, 21:13

bendib wrote:
Delphinio wrote:
bendib wrote:In addition, to quote the 1.10 copy of Functions.txt:

Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage01,ROCKET,0,0,0,30,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage02,ROCKET,0,0,0,60,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage03,ROCKET,0,0,0,90,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage04,ROCKET,0,0,0,120,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage05,ROCKET,0,0,0,150,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage06,ROCKET,0,0,0,180,0,0,0

I think pumpkin did this.
Thats not a 1.10 copy of "Functions.txt". Do you know how to get a correct 1.10 copy?
Download 1.10 patch and extract "nov.wdg".
And yes, Pumpkin did this and patched it later.
I hate to contradict you, but it says 1.10 for the version when I run the executable Warzone.exe under wine... This is from 1.10.
You mean the "source code .exe" version? Yes i know, thats right.
But its not the "real 1.10 .exe"... its badly modified.
Let me show you:
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Source Code Version
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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by bendib » 13 Jan 2013, 03:15

Ah, the file size nearly tripled? Anyways, it is the last move by Pumpkin. It is what started all of these projects. It should be respected.
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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by Delphinio » 13 Jan 2013, 03:55

bendib wrote:Ah, the file size nearly tripled? Anyways, it is the last move by Pumpkin. It is what started all of these projects. It should be respected.
I thought its a faked v1.05 but its not, v1.05's ".exe" has also less than 3mb.
Anyway, i know that this ".exe" is not compatible with gamespy, i think thats one reason why it's changed.
I just dont know why they didnt put an updated "stats" folder inside.

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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by nod18 » 13 Jan 2013, 12:28

Anyway we cant just make a fix file to do dmg right ?

I try to modify files in Base.wz but when i try to save changes, i got error :/

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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by Per » 13 Jan 2013, 14:21

Every other weapon in campaign seems to follow the same +30% progression of damage for each upgrade. Just another data point.

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Re: Campaign Lancers damage bug ?

Post by nod18 » 16 Jan 2013, 12:54

Finaly i fix this !

I found this in Functions.txt thanks to you guys !

Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage01,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,30,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage02,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,60,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage03,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,90,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage04,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,120,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage05,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,150,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage06,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,180,0,0,0

And I change this to:

Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage01,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,1,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage02,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,2,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage03,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,3,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage04,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,4,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage05,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,5,0,0,0
Weapon Upgrade,Wpn-RocketSlow-Damage06,SLOW ROCKET,0,0,0,6,0,0,0

I save changes and i check this in game.

And Damage from Lancer AT, is almost perfect, BUT is still to high ! :P

In original WZ 2100 1.10 This rockets do in last mission in cam1, 160DMG
And with my fix they do 164 DMG ! so they made 4 damage to high :P but we can say its Good and fixed, i dont know how to decrease this more to 160... but i think its good

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