Rockies: cliff vs. gravel problem (:

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Re: Rockies: cliff vs. gravel problem (:

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MaNGusT wrote:
effigy wrote:The problem with lowering texture size is it effects the models, too
:shock: how?
By making them look worse:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1460920/wz/v3.1 ... 0sizes.png image too big to post :O

Hmm... though, I thought they use to looked worse in 2.3, then again, in 2.3 the lowest texture setting was 64.
This is why some features aren't implemented: http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=7490&view=unread#p87241
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Use pngcrush, it will optimize PNG images without changing appearance (with correct options).
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Emdek wrote:Use pngcrush, it will optimize PNG images without changing appearance (with correct options).
I don't know what this has to do with not being to reduce terrain textures with out reduce the already small model textures.

Do you see the difference in my composite? Rather, that 2048 and 512 look the same (and should, since the textures are only 512), and 128 affects both models and terrain? It was more noticeable in 2.x when you could go down to 64.

Anyway, my point is that unless you zoom in (or perhaps play on a 42"+ monitor) you can't appreciate the terrain textures. An HD pack makes sense for this reason (vs gigantic as default for all).
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effigy, that is generic tool to make file sizes smaller without loosing quality.
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Oh, so that's something that could get coded in to the game?
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No, run on tiles directory (and other PNG files) and output (recompressed images) pushed to repository.
Mostly to save some space in resulting release packages.
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@MaNGusT: yep, ortographic... Perspective would have shown the borders of the terrain mesh.
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Emdek wrote:Use pngcrush, it will optimize PNG images without changing appearance (with correct options).
I actually use optipng but it is the same idea.
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This was hella promising and feasible - the decal technique applied to cliff-face. Excellent work done too. :)

I repeat my question - why did it just die...? :hmm:

SEE most recently: viewtopic.php?f=33&t=2383&p=100341#p100341

AND where it began Oct. 3, 2010: viewtopic.php?f=3&t=6101&p=71059#p71059


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Re: Rockies: cliff vs. gravel problem (:

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MaNGusT wrote:I'll try to create a more adequate textures but changes to code is also required. Devs?
What do you need?
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As far as i understand, cliff decals require no code changes; without cliff decals, it is necessary to make cliff texture scatter around in a less fluffy way.
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Per wrote:
MaNGusT wrote:I'll try to create a more adequate textures but changes to code is also required. Devs?
What do you need?
lol.. nothing, thank you. :-)
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NoQ wrote:As far as i understand, cliff decals require no code changes; without cliff decals, it is necessary to make cliff texture scatter around in a less fluffy way.
You mean do away with the half-tile system, in favour of proper texture splatting?

At least, that's what I'm thinking should be done.
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And have all textures be available at any given time on a map? :D Pleeeeease?
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Goth Zagog-Thou wrote:And have all textures be available at any given time on a map? :D Pleeeeease?
Do you want all the terrain types available on all maps, or just all the decals?

My thinking if that it would be fine to limit the terrain types (to limit the amount of huge textures we need to keep in graphics memory), while offering an unlimited amount of decals instead (shared between all terrain types).
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