Models by Jorzi (AR)
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Thanks guys
Here's the textured lowpoly, 118 triangles...
How much texture space should be devoted to features like this btw? currently it is 256x256 with additional space for a 128x128 map. I'm wondering because there are quite a few features and my current models already use approximately 30 texpages (not counting normalmaps and tcmasks) how high can the tcmask numbering go and would it be easier to handle if we merged some of the texpages?
Here's the textured lowpoly, 118 triangles...
How much texture space should be devoted to features like this btw? currently it is 256x256 with additional space for a 128x128 map. I'm wondering because there are quite a few features and my current models already use approximately 30 texpages (not counting normalmaps and tcmasks) how high can the tcmask numbering go and would it be easier to handle if we merged some of the texpages?
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There is no finite limitation on the number of texture pages. It would be nice to merge them, though, as it would mean less texture switching on the GPU.
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Ok, not that hard to do, although I'll have to re-export the models of course (and that has to be done anyway when we change to a new format)
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I didn't see that commercial games use merged textures, well, not so regular. It's very inconvenient for designers.
about Oil well. the black color of oil should shine and have some reflections.
about Oil well. the black color of oil should shine and have some reflections.
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Yeah, will fix that once specular maps get supported
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oh .. and add more blue colors to the metal parts
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Are you sure it needs more blue? (yeah I know the original was quite blue but I think the new one looks ok ingame)
Also, final update for tonight: Scavenger buggy
Also, final update for tonight: Scavenger buggy
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The original Warzone2100 was a commercial game, and it used merged texturesMaNGusT wrote:I didn't see that commercial games use merged textures, well, not so regular. It's very inconvenient for designers.
But I suspect most modern games have a tool that stitches the textures up in an optimal way as the data files are packed for release, or something like that, instead of doing it manually. (It could also be the case that the Pumpkin's had such a tool, and we are just seeing the end result of it.)
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screenshot of the oil is good. btw why is the terrain around the oil so orange. Desaturate it to fit terrain texture color.
about baggy - nice! would it be better to place the weapon on top of the buggy?
about baggy - nice! would it be better to place the weapon on top of the buggy?
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what modern games do use merged textures? just imagine this: we have thousands of texture files, we need to sort em, put em to the right folders to be able to find needed ones in a future for some purpose. It's the 1st problem.Per wrote:But I suspect most modern games have a tool that stitches the textures up in an optimal way as the data files are packed for release, or something like that, instead of doing it manually. (It could also be the case that the Pumpkin's had such a tool, and we are just seeing the end result of it.)
2nd: do you understand what do uvw mean? I really don't want to edit each model for this because I may "miss click" and texture will be a bit twisted or stretced.
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The orange tint on the ground is partly because of specularity (lack of spec map) but I guess a bit of desaturation would also be good.
About buggy: on the original buggy model the gun is placed like that since it is operated by the driver, while on the jeep, it is on the roof and operated by a second person. I think it would be good to keep this difference...
About merging texpages: Mangust has a point about having to do it manually potentially causing small errors. A script would be nicer (I think blender has one actually) and the most convenient thing would be if the game did it internally. However, in my current mod I have a total of ~120 texpages (tcmasks and normalmaps not included) as well as normal mapping and a secondary lightsource for sky reflection and I am noticing no slowdowns at all on my single core athlon 64 with an nvidia 8600 gt card.
About buggy: on the original buggy model the gun is placed like that since it is operated by the driver, while on the jeep, it is on the roof and operated by a second person. I think it would be good to keep this difference...
About merging texpages: Mangust has a point about having to do it manually potentially causing small errors. A script would be nicer (I think blender has one actually) and the most convenient thing would be if the game did it internally. However, in my current mod I have a total of ~120 texpages (tcmasks and normalmaps not included) as well as normal mapping and a secondary lightsource for sky reflection and I am noticing no slowdowns at all on my single core athlon 64 with an nvidia 8600 gt card.
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Mhmm, I think it is best to leave them unmerged until later when more thorough cost/benefit analysis can be performed.
Who knows, maybe that's where all the off-by-one errors in the current models came from.MaNGusT wrote:I really don't want to edit each model for this because I may "miss click" and texture will be a bit twisted or stretced.
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nice! how many polys has the lowpoly model?
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Forgot to mention that
Lowpoly is 158 triangles, which I think is fairly low considering that it has no separate turret or propulsion.
I'm planning to do a simple interior to the cockpit as well, using alpha channel for the steel beams.
Lowpoly is 158 triangles, which I think is fairly low considering that it has no separate turret or propulsion.
I'm planning to do a simple interior to the cockpit as well, using alpha channel for the steel beams.
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