Bunker Buster & Base Buster

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by guciomir » 19 Oct 2009, 23:04

multi barreled suggests high rate of fire

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Olrox » 19 Oct 2009, 23:35

guciomir wrote:multi barreled suggests high rate of fire
Yes, it's the same logic as when you "upgrade" Bombards to Pepperpots and Ground Shakers to Hellstorm.

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by zoid » 19 Oct 2009, 23:51

I am so glad someone made this thread; I was considering making it.

Please do NOT make the model red and black so it looks like Archangel. Make it whitish-grey like the Bunker Buster. That will serve as a visual reminder that the weapon is in the same class as BB, while its large size shows its increased power. :)

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Zarel » 20 Oct 2009, 00:19

Gray, with red and black stripes, then?

Yes, it is indeed a fairly high rate of fire.

We can raise the mount a bit if clipping is an issue, but I see no reason to reduce firing angle.

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by winsrp » 20 Oct 2009, 00:26

with this kind of weapon in hand we are going to end up needing an BB radar detector in order to not get your defenses pwn... xD

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Olrox » 20 Oct 2009, 00:30

winsrp wrote:with this kind of weapon in hand we are going to end up needing an BB radar detector in order to not get your defenses pwn... xD
hahahaha, "threat detector"!
It beeps when strong enemy forces are inbound xD

It's ok about the color, and I'll make the mount bigger then.

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Olrox » 20 Oct 2009, 01:17

Here's the first sketch on multi-barreled Buster (let's just call it MBB while we don't decide the name)
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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by zoid » 20 Oct 2009, 01:22

The Rotary Bunker Buster. :D :D

It's hard to tell from the model, but are you retaining the Bunker Buster's asymmetric look? It's part of what makes it cool-looking.

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by zoid » 20 Oct 2009, 01:24

Zarel wrote:Gray, with red and black stripes, then?
No, it should look like a Bunker Buster, except for larger/multiple barrels. Think of the relation between Howitzer, Ground Shaker, and Hellstorm. They share the same basic barrel, but the Ground Shaker's barrel is bigger, while the Hellstorm has 3 barrels. :)

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Olrox » 20 Oct 2009, 01:31

zoid wrote:
Zarel wrote:Gray, with red and black stripes, then?
No, it should look like a Bunker Buster, except for larger/multiple barrels. Think of the relation between Howitzer, Ground Shaker, and Hellstorm. They share the same basic barrel, but the Ground Shaker's barrel is bigger, while the Hellstorm has 3 barrels. :)
The hellstorm barrels are smaller than the Ground Shaker ones, about the same size as the howitzer's ones, aren't they? :rolleyes:

I didn't make it asymmetric, would look weird I think - it'd look like there's too much weigth on a single connection

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Olrox » 20 Oct 2009, 01:55

Thinking it over, another option woul be make it 2-barreled, with a connection block between the barrels, that would be attached to the turret itself. Or should we stick with 3 barrels?

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Zarel » 20 Oct 2009, 03:04

zoid wrote:No, it should look like a Bunker Buster, except for larger/multiple barrels. Think of the relation between Howitzer, Ground Shaker, and Hellstorm. They share the same basic barrel, but the Ground Shaker's barrel is bigger, while the Hellstorm has 3 barrels. :)
Howitzer, Ground Shaker, and Hellstorms are all howitzers.

Bunker Buster is a rocket, and Fortress Cracker is a missile. They're not the same weapon at all, except for the damage type. Think of the relation between mortar and howitzer.
Olrox wrote:Here's the first sketch on multi-barreled Buster
This is awesome. It looks a bit like Hellstorm, though...
Olrox wrote:(let's just call it MBB while we don't decide the name)
Unless someone objects, I'm calling it Fortress Cracker.

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Sekmeton » 20 Oct 2009, 04:11

Zarel wrote:Unless someone objects, I'm calling it Fortress Cracker.
Oh yeah :twisted:

....or... what about Fortress Crusher? xD
Maybe I should remove my location o_O

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by Olrox » 20 Oct 2009, 04:26

Sekmeton wrote:
Zarel wrote:Unless someone objects, I'm calling it Fortress Cracker.
Oh yeah :twisted:

....or... what about Fortress Crusher? xD
"Fortress Crusher" is the name of a group of those inside a base ;)
"Fortress Cracker" looks more like something to get inside a fortress.

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Re: Bunker Buster & Base Buster

Post by zoid » 20 Oct 2009, 04:48

Zarel wrote:Howitzer, Ground Shaker, and Hellstorms are all howitzers.

Bunker Buster is a rocket, and Fortress Cracker is a missile. They're not the same weapon at all, except for the damage type. Think of the relation between mortar and howitzer.
So the Bunker Buster is going to look like a Lancer now? :D We don't need a special missile color code; obviously MBB is a missile since its middle to late T3. Besides, its hard enough to distinguish all the reddish weapons (especially TK and Scourge). It has more in common with BB than with missiles in general.

I'm tired...time for a stretch break...

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