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New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 01 Aug 2010, 16:58
by DylanDog
I was reading a book and got the inspiration for a new idea: droid's shield. I know this feature would required a big/huge work on the code but I think it is something which is worth to work on.

Shields should be used rarely to make them a feature to increase the game strategy (they should be used on desperate defence actions, on incursions on enemy bases, when attacking important enemy derricks...), I would not like to see them in all battles.
Shields should be applicable to droids only, not to structures.

How should they be implemented? we can discuss about it, I suggest the following way:

1-Shields can be used only when the Shield Technology (also a new fetaure) has been researched.

2-Shields Technology should be a late T1 technology.

3-Shileds can be upgraded to reduce "unloading time"(-20%, -30%, -40%), see below on point 6-7 -> "unloding time".

4-Shileds should offer a 100% protection against almost all weapons. Only few weapons (penetrating ones) should be able to penetrate them and to hit the target.

5-Shields have to be fully loaded before being activated.

6-Once activated cannot be deactivated and they start unloading.

7-"Loading time" should be slow (7-10 min?) and "unloading time" quick (20-30 secs).

8-Newly created droids should have their shield at 100% loaded.

what do you think???

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 01 Aug 2010, 23:07
by Verin
Im not sure...

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 01 Aug 2010, 23:41
by Wibble199
Me neither...

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 01:54
by Roux Le Corps
could be good, what do you mean by penetrating? like lasers and such? emp's should take out a shield v.fast, but while the shield is dwindling the droid should be fine to move, and should be later t2, just before lasers if possible.

maybe have it as a 'special' turret first? for scouting only? then other turrets that include shielding? low hp turrets with high shield i mean, then of course maybe a shield emitter type turret? puffing out a bubble to help defend tanks with no shield? could be another element of dun for long games ^_^

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 05:48
by Zarel
Ehh, more micromanagement. That's honestly one of the things I don't like about StarCraft. I'll add mod support for it I wouldn't mind if mod support were added for it, but it's not something I want in the game itself.

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 10:13
by KukY
Zarel wrote:Ehh, more micromanagement. That's honestly one of the things I don't like about StarCraft. I'll add mod support for it, but it's not something I want in the game itself.
Well, the game should get some kind of invulnerability...

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 11:37
by Berg
We have this already https://sourceforge.net/projects/wzgrap ... i/download
Not quite the same as DylanDog has suggested but it maybe easy to modify to his suggestions of research ect.
Anyway this we just messing with the code mostly.


Regards Berg

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 14:09
by DylanDog
Zarel wrote:Ehh, more micromanagement.
Not if we keep the loading time long enough.
Zarel wrote: I'll add mod support for it...
this would be great!!!

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 19:57
by Zarel
DylanDog wrote:
Zarel wrote:Ehh, more micromanagement.
Not if we keep the loading time long enough.
That wouldn't change the fact that it would increase the amount of micromanagement you'd have to do.

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 02 Aug 2010, 20:08
by Safety0ff
I wonder how splash damage absorbing shields would work out in warzone (gameplay/balance wise).

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 03:00
by Verin
Zarel wrote:Ehh, more micromanagement.
- its always "micro management" or "balance issues" I understand that but there is no issue with this-
Perhaps create a body/turret that will emit the shield, produce it just like any other body. max of 1 or 2 available. ( just like the trucks limit) i dont see how that would add to micro management, just send it along with an army or position it at a base.

Use what is already in the game, upgrade it just like any other weapon, and produce it like one also. The only thing that wil need to be done is fabricating the turret/body itself, and creating the limit of these units.

What is your response to that?

If you call designing the shield unit and producing it micromanagement, then your a really lazy player.

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 04:10
by Zarel
Verin wrote:- its always "micro management" or "balance issues" I understand that but there is no issue with this-
Perhaps create a body/turret that will emit the shield, produce it just like any other body. max of 1 or 2 available. ( just like the trucks limit) i dont see how that would add to micro management, just send it along with an army or position it at a base.

Use what is already in the game, upgrade it just like any other weapon, and produce it like one also. The only thing that wil need to be done is fabricating the turret/body itself, and creating the limit of these units.

What is your response to that?

If you call designing the shield unit and producing it micromanagement, then your a really lazy player.
Erm, designing and producing a shield unit would not be micromanagement at all, but that's not what this thread is about. This thread is about a shield with a long cooldown disappears after a short time. You can feel free to start a new thread for a shield that doesn't disappear after a short time, but please do not derail an existing thread with off-topic discussion.

The problem with managing a shield with a long cooldown and a short activation period is that you either have to activate the shield manually (micromanagement), or the shield activates once the cooldown ends (in which case you'd have to micromanage it so that the cooldown ends right when you need the shield the most).

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 06:37
by Roux Le Corps
perhaps the cool-down is unnecessary? i dont see any need for it :|

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 13:04
by Zarel
Roux Le Corps wrote:perhaps the cool-down is unnecessary? i dont see any need for it :|
...with no cooldown, you could keep on activating the shield and no one's units would ever die...

Re: New feature: DROID'S SHIELD

Posted: 04 Aug 2010, 13:09
by Roux Le Corps
what if it was a damage reducer? a buff effect even?

*edit* or even a secondary health bar? with certain weapons negated on it and others unaffected?