Enable vehicle transport on multiplay/skirmish

[Rman Virgil]

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Looking down the road, if ever 512 by 512 or 1024 by 1024 maps are made possible, enabling a Tank Transport - LZ scheme will be central to the mix for success, I believe. But getting back to the present reality of 256 x 256 .... balancing them is really not that big a deal & breaking the save game format is a worthwhile sacrifice I also hold, to be able to create fresh game play maps. If you don't like em there's over a 1000 old school maps you can stick to already - & no doubt more cookie-cutter variants forthcoming. Let us that wanna explore, create and play new ways get on with it.

- RV

[WarTux]

Looking down the road, if ever 512 by 512 or 1024 by 1024 maps are made possible, enabling a Tank Transport - LZ scheme will be central to the mix for success, I believe.

+1. Tank transports will add a whole new dimension to gameplay (possible "mini-campaign," anyone?) and they would not be hard to balance, especially if we go with the "buildable LZ" scheme.

[Rman Virgil]

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Looking down the road, if ever 512 by 512 or 1024 by 1024 maps are made possible, enabling a Tank Transport - LZ scheme will be central to the mix for success, I believe.

+1. Tank transports will add a whole new dimension to gameplay (possible "mini-campaign," anyone?) and they would not be hard to balance, especially if we go with the "buildable LZ" scheme.

Agreed.

With this Tank Transport-LZ Scheme and 512 x 512 maps you could readily build at least 10 spine-tingling missions on one map. Whoever said such big maps would be boring has failed in the imagination department, IMO. Plus Naval could really shine on such map sizes.

- RV

[JDW]

Plus Naval could really shine on such map sizes.

Epic battles.

BTW... the Tank Transport is hard-coded out of MP..... by this dev project.... In Pumpkin's Retail release it was not hard-coded out so you could make Mods with it.

Just curious, what was the reason to hard-code it out?

Regards,
JDW

[Roux Le Corps]

Lemmie answer "balance" and prob to have more room to code.

[Crymson]

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Yea.... that's what I was referring to looking at in your filed ticket.

Some of those are hard-coded limits. Hardware does not matter. But they should not crash the game. They are simply removed upon load. That's how v.2.3.x handles it.

I'll have to look at the suggested double-placements. That's an easy mistake to do in flaME. But still.... that should not crash the game.... and does not in v.2.3.x. It is simply not placed on load.

BTW... the Tank Transport is hard-coded out of MP..... by this dev project.... In Pumpkin's Retail release it was not hard-coded out so you could make Mods with it.

- RV

Rman, are you sure about this?
There must have been a reason for this.

[JDW]

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Yea.... that's what I was referring to looking at in your filed ticket.

Some of those are hard-coded limits. Hardware does not matter. But they should not crash the game. They are simply removed upon load. That's how v.2.3.x handles it.

I'll have to look at the suggested double-placements. That's an easy mistake to do in flaME. But still.... that should not crash the game.... and does not in v.2.3.x. It is simply not placed on load.

BTW... the Tank Transport is hard-coded out of MP..... by this dev project.... In Pumpkin's Retail release it was not hard-coded out so you could make Mods with it.

- RV

Rman, are you sure about this?
There must have been a reason for this.

If you're asking about the crash in my trunk version. Well, this is most likely a bug in my graphics driver, a bug report has been filed, and it's being looked into. RV's map is working great in 2.3.x version

And if you're asking about the transports being hard-coded out, well, I'm waiting for an answer from him on that too.

[Rman Virgil]

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Well guys, I don't know the reasons why they are locked out in the current binary - that's for one of the devs to speak to.

I have a v.1.10 binary where they are not. That's all I can speak to other than my suggestions here for unlocking them to be used in mods and as part of an LZ balancing GPM scheme described.

- RV

[Zarel]

Just curious, what was the reason to hard-code it out?

It happened before I became a developer, but if I had to guess I'd say it was because it simplified some areas of the code.

Lemmie answer "balance" and prob to have more room to code.

It definitely wasn't for balance reasons.

Heck, I can say that officially.

It wasn't for balance reasons.

[Roux Le Corps]

~sits quietly in my place~ ^_^

[lav_coyote25]

then why?? and can it be put back in??

[KukY]

then why?? and can it be put back in??

Yeah! Make it moddable!

[Zarel]

then why?? and can it be put back in??

Yes, I am planning on putting it back in the next time I have time.

[KukY]

Yes, I am planning on putting it back in the next time I have time.

Right...

[JDW]

then why?? and can it be put back in??

Yes, I am planning on putting it back in the next time I have time.

Request to project staff: Please update the FPI to avoid duplicate requests.