Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

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Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by maik2012 » 31 Mar 2013, 12:23

..are the four most important issues.

Quitting: I has been proposed many times: replace leaving players with ai.

Ranking: Only one rank per computer, based on two numbers. Number1: Quitting percentage + a rating number. Every new player has a rating of 1000. If he beats another player he gets a certain percentage of the other players rating.

For example: rating change % is 2.5. Two players of 1000 meet. Winner has new rating of 1025. Loser 975. In multiplayer games the calculations are more difficult but not complex math either.

Name changing: Most of the issues could also be solved if name changing is disabled OR make all other nicks visible.
The warzone "community" has a lot of bad behaving people in it. All of the above issues encourage these behaviours. As a host i have to deal with it all the time. There are some players, who don't like you and they join your games and then quit. There are laggers, who KNOW their computer can't handle 10 players (yes lagging is often a computer issue), if you kick them they just change their names. Some Pro's also do this. They join your game with fake nicks and these games last 10 minutes or so. I admit i sometimes quit these games. I really try hard to be fair and most of my losing games i let end. But like i pointed out the key issues of this game, they are encouraging all these behaviours.

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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by NoQ » 31 Mar 2013, 14:52

Quitting: I has been proposed many times: replace leaving players with ai.
Disagreed many times. Letting teammates share the oil of the quitter is much better than giving it to an ai that hardly does things.
Ranking
Name changing
All ranks and names are fake. You can just edit a file and have your rank as big as you want or erase name history. The only fix is to implement server-side registration for players, which is being worked on.
The warzone "community" has a lot of bad behaving people in it.
The set of anonymous players in the lobby cannot be called a community. Only people who sign up to have a reputation can form a community. This includes forums and IRC chat. The root of the problems is that you cannot talk to the person outside one single game.

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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by aubergine » 31 Mar 2013, 23:42

The thing about arranging IRC games keeps cropping up. Would it be worth editing WZ to display a message when setting up MP game about the benefits of arranging games on IRC? Is there a topic/page somewhere that could be linked to that walks people through setting up games on IRC?
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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by Berg » 01 Apr 2013, 00:40

If you want to arrange online games, you might want to use our online chat room!

Enter chat room » http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=warzone2100-games

Experienced users can also enter this chat room by visiting #warzone2100-games in FreeNode with an IRC client » irc://irc.freenode.net/warzone2100-games
see home page this site http://wz2100.net/

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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by effigy » 01 Apr 2013, 02:40

Berg wrote:If you want to arrange online games, you might want to use our online chat room!

Enter chat room » http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=warzone2100-games

Experienced users can also enter this chat room by visiting #warzone2100-games in FreeNode with an IRC client » irc://irc.freenode.net/warzone2100-games
see home page this site http://wz2100.net/
I suppose the webchat link could be added to the Lobby screen?
This is why some features aren't implemented: http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=7490&view=unread#p87241

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Post by aubergine » 01 Apr 2013, 02:50

effigy wrote:I suppose the webchat link could be added to the Lobby screen?
+1
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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by Rommel » 01 Apr 2013, 04:19

effigy wrote: I suppose the webchat link could be added to the Lobby screen?
Doesn't do much good for mac users as we need to play in fullscreen (because of the trap cursor bug) and cannot reduce screen either :( Oh when I say "we" it may only be "I" - not sure but this issue has persisted for me over a few versions of WZ.

Is it overly difficult to add a chat to the game list screen like the one in the game lobby?
Moving back instead of forward
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Post by aubergine » 02 Apr 2013, 18:18

I'm a mac user and don't play full screen. Then again, I use cursor keys to move around the map so my mouse rarely goes near map edges.

Note: I've heard several mac users state that the "trap cursor" doesn't work, and I think I even tried it myself at one point and couldn't get it working (the game wouldn't start IIRC).
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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by effigy » 27 Apr 2013, 03:16

Rommel wrote:
effigy wrote: I suppose the webchat link could be added to the Lobby screen?
Doesn't do much good for mac users as we need to play in fullscreen (because of the trap cursor bug) and cannot reduce screen either :( Oh when I say "we" it may only be "I" - not sure but this issue has persisted for me over a few versions of WZ.

Is it overly difficult to add a chat to the game list screen like the one in the game lobby?
I think we are talking about the same screen.

This:
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This is why some features aren't implemented: http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=7490&view=unread#p87241

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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by NoQ » 27 Apr 2013, 05:56

I'm a mac user and don't play full screen. Then again, I use cursor keys to move around the map so my mouse rarely goes near map edges.
Emm remind me please, alt+t doesn't work either?

upd: whoops. didn't read the next sentence :oops:

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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by Rommel » 27 Apr 2013, 16:02

effigy wrote: I think we are talking about the same screen.
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Yes this is the one, would love to see chat functionality there.
Moving back instead of forward
Seems to me absurd
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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by maik2012 » 26 Jul 2015, 11:48

Two years later, same bullsh1t. Just make all nicks visible. It seems the veterans like it that way. So then the game will slowly but surely fade away. The number of players may not have been decreased, but didn't increase either. If you can't handel this, just don't answer this at all.

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Re: Quitting, Ranking, name changing and lagging..

Post by Tzeentch » 26 Jul 2015, 19:38

"All ranks and names are fake. You can just edit a file and have your rank as big as you want or erase name history. The only fix is to implement server-side registration for players, which is being worked on." - If no one is working on this perhaps I could do this?
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