Campaign trick to get ranked heroes fast.

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Campaign trick to get ranked heroes fast.

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For those that didn't figured it out yet, the first map is the best map to train your units.
I will detail here how to do it.

First of, build up a small base like you would like to and get at least 10 tanks.
On this map there are 4 ennemy bases.

Basically, destroy base 1,3 and 4 and get their tech and research it.
Leave the second base (the second base with the oil derrick) untouched.
To do that just tell your units to hold their fire while passing that base.

Once you researched all tech, make groups of about 10 tanks and 5 repair tanks.
After they have been build get a group into the narrow corridor leading to the second base.
Leave them there and then go to sleep or something.
Next day do the same with more groups if you want to.
I train like that 20 heroes in no time.

Have fun !
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wow... that's an imaginative way to use your cpu.  hey, kayiaxo, you should try that same tactic in multiplayer, bc it works there, too  ;)
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could you do that on the final collective mission?
if you turn off the time of course...
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It's because the little Scavenger units that crumple in two MG hits give you just as much experience as an enemy tank that takes five Heavy Cannon rounds. I think they're working on fixing that.
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Ianator wrote: It's because the little Scavenger units that crumple in two MG hits give you just as much experience as an enemy tank that takes five Heavy Cannon rounds. I think they're working on fixing that.
It is fixed in the new version. For more information see the topic on modifying the experience system. In short experience is now down to how much relative damage you do to your opponent. So it factors in your own unit and the enemy unit (so using a lancer unit to destroy a scav tank will probably not get you 1.00 experience points but probably closer to 0.5/0.6).

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Kayiaxo wrote: ...Once you researched all tech, make groups of about 10 tanks and 5 repair tanks.
After they have been build get a group into the narrow corridor leading to the second base.
Leave them there and then go to sleep or something.
Next day do the same with more groups if you want to.
I train like that 20 heroes in no time...
Its sounds like cheating =)) tricky bastard =)
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EvilGuru wrote: It is fixed in the new version. For more information see the topic on modifying the experience system. In short experience is now down to how much relative damage you do to your opponent. So it factors in your own unit and the enemy unit (so using a lancer unit to destroy a scav tank will probably not get you 1.00 experience points but probably closer to 0.5/0.6).

Regards, Freddie.
Are you talking about 2.0.10 or the new 2.1 that will come out ?
Because in 2.0.10 there isn't a lot of difference leveling.
And would they still give 0.5 exp, that's ok, since you can leave the game running without worries like that.
Terminator wrote: Its sounds like cheating =)) tricky bastard =)
It isn't cheating, however it is abusing ^_^
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yeah... warzone is foss now... if he wanted to cheat, there's nothing stopping him from doing that.
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Kayiaxo wrote:Are you talking about 2.0.10 or the new 2.1 that will come out ?
The new 2.1 that will come out. It's currently on the trunk version.


EvilGuru wrote:It is fixed in the new version. For more information see the topic on modifying the experience system. In short experience is now down to how much relative damage you do to your opponent. So it factors in your own unit and the enemy unit (so using a lancer unit to destroy a scav tank will probably not get you 1.00 experience points but probably closer to 0.5/0.6).

Regards, Freddie.
Isn't that only valid for multi-player game, though?


from "trunk/src/projectile.c":

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		// If it is 'droid-on-droid' then modify the experience by the Quality factor
		// Only do this in MP so to not un-balance the campaign
		if (psObj->psDest != NULL
		 && psObj->psDest->type == OBJ_DROID
		 && bMultiPlayer)
		{
			// Modify the experience gained by the 'quality factor' of the units
			experienceInc *= QualityFactor(psDroid, (DROID *) psObj->psDest);
		}
Perhaps doing this for single-player too would be good. The player would get not so much experience from scavanger units, and would rank up a little faster when fighting the collective/nexus.

Just and idea. I don't even know if it could be done for single-player, since calcDroidPower and calcDroidPoints might not work with the scavanger units...
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kage wrote: yeah... warzone is foss now... if he wanted to cheat, there's nothing stopping him from doing that.
I'm doing that just because I don't want to cheat.
It's not like the campaign is difficult, it's just that I'm not satisfied with winning, I just gotta humiliate them !
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I remember in the original game all the levels were timed(such as in away missions), even without a timer (regular missions had a silent clock), but with regulars missions if you didn't finish in a certain time the mission failed anyway.  there was no way you could leave the game on over-night.

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I remember in the original game all the levels were timed, even without a timer (such as in away missions), but with regulars missions if you didn't finish in a certain time the mission failed anyway.  there was no way you could leave the game on over-night
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Of course, but in the first mission of the game you have unlimited time, so you can wait how much time you want to get better ranks for your units. Try that, its really useful.  ;)
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i did....i have 39 heroes now ;)...
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never seen enough advanctice in ranks.

numbers been always my favourit :D

recall the final missions building sh*t loads of mantis rail and couple of weak but longer range pulse. had np completing the final quest without beeing low power :P. had diffulcties at the center doh, units like to go back west then north and then east. while my base was east north.... lost a save game there or 2. only thing to do was sent units on kamakazi.......

rushing maps is way more fun of course i always used like 6 different save games at least to back fire 1.
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Ziasod wrote:recall the final missions building sh*t loads of mantis rail and couple of weak but longer range pulse. had np completing the final quest without beeing low power :P. had diffulcties at the center doh, units like to go back west then north and then east. while my base was east north.... lost a save game there or 2. only thing to do was sent units on kamakazi.......
Sadly that was not an option for me, I had to complete the final mission with a total of 20 units. I managed to only lose 4 or 5 of them (no, I didn't cheat).

What are the benefits of experience exactly?
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