The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

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The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby Omikronman » 01 May 2009, 21:03

I used the 2.2. beta 2 yesterday and I was surprised to see that bad working twin turrets for the big bodies are in Warzone again.
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby Mysteryem » 01 May 2009, 21:08

Omikronman wrote:I used the 2.2. beta 2 yesterday and I was surprised to see that bad working twin turrets for the big bodies are in Warzone again.

What's wrong with them? (other than being a bit buggy) It is a beta after all. :|
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby Omikronman » 01 May 2009, 21:16

There were a lot of issues with the twin turrets, and in fact of this the warzone resurrection team decided to remove this "feature". Maybe they have forgotten to remove it in the 2.x.x version too.
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby Zarel » 02 May 2009, 04:24

Omikronman wrote:There were a lot of issues with the twin turrets, and in fact of this the warzone resurrection team decided to remove this "feature". Maybe they have forgotten to remove it in the 2.x.x version too.

No, they were just removed from default 2.1 settings because they were too unstable.

I've fixed nearly all the issues with multiple turrets for 2.2 beta 3 and future versions (as well as all the issues with a lot of other things, including Repair Facility).
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby Omikronman » 02 May 2009, 04:47

Hey, Zarel, I know why these double turret tanks have so big problems. The gun-man inside the tank can not look outside the tank because the second turret blocks the window. :-(

Well, maybe he gets a new technology to be able to look outside with that bad-looking second turret on the front of the body, but, let me say, This double turret "feature" looks so BAD, it should not be implemented in the game in this way!
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Postby Zarel » 02 May 2009, 04:53

Omikronman wrote:Hey, Zarel, I know why these double turret tanks have so big problems. The gun-man inside the tank can not look outside the tank because the second turret blocks the window. :-(

Well, maybe he gets a new technology to be able to look outside with that bad-looking second turret on the front of the body, but, let me say, This double turret "feature" looks so BAD, it should not be implemented in the game in this way!

You'll have to tell me what's so bad about it.

It seems okay to me. Don't talk to me about bugs, since those have been fixed.
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby Buginator » 02 May 2009, 05:11

Yeah, certain combination of turrets can really make it look pretty ugly.

Might just have to disable for 2.2 (for now), and when a good fix comes along, re-enable it.
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby EvilGuru » 02 May 2009, 12:43

Unless every possible combination looks reasonable (so no clipping) it is unlikely that they will be enabled. It just looks silly otherwise.

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Postby Zarel » 02 May 2009, 13:40

EvilGuru wrote:Unless every possible combination looks reasonable (so no clipping) it is unlikely that they will be enabled. It just looks silly otherwise.

Regards, Freddie.

Um... So I'm guessing I should turn them off again? :[

But there are so many people who like them, and I just finished fixing all the gameplay bugs!
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby EvilGuru » 02 May 2009, 14:01

They can re-enable them using a mod if the want them. However, so long as there are graphical glitches they are not production-ready. I am sure we'll find some other uses for the code.

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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby 3drts » 03 May 2009, 01:00

I don't (graphically/aesthetically) see the multi turrets as much worse that certain weapon or even body+prop combos in the regular game...
Pretty much every medium body VTOL looks ugly.
Pretty much every big weapon mounted on a light body looks ugly or stupid.....

Some of the positions of the 2nd turret could be adjusted a little more, but I think they should stay...
I almost always add at least an MG to my pythons - 10 extra power, but 10% more HP (if I am going with lancers), and aesthetically I think it looks good - dual Heavy cannons- look ridiculous.
If the 2nd turret could only mount certain weapons, I think that would be ideal...
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby alienkid10 » 03 May 2009, 01:34

keep double turrets in 2.2 final!
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby Buginator » 03 May 2009, 06:46

alienkid10 wrote:keep double turrets in 2.2 final!

99.9% chance of that, is just not going to happen. :stare:

3drts wrote:I don't (graphically/aesthetically) see the multi turrets as much worse that certain weapon or even body+prop combos in the regular game...
Pretty much every medium body VTOL looks ugly.
Pretty much every big weapon mounted on a light body looks ugly or stupid.....

Some of the positions of the 2nd turret could be adjusted a little more, but I think they should stay...
I almost always add at least an MG to my pythons - 10 extra power, but 10% more HP (if I am going with lancers), and aesthetically I think it looks good - dual Heavy cannons- look ridiculous.
If the 2nd turret could only mount certain weapons, I think that would be ideal...

When the weapons clip into each other, then we got some big ugly issues.
This isn't a simple fix either, or it would have been fixed.
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby KukY » 04 May 2009, 15:50

Why to put 2 turrets on 1 body on 1 propulsion?
You should put 2 bodies on 1 propulsion and each body with 1(...or 2...) turret.
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Re: The bad twin turrets for big bodies are inside again

Postby alienkid10 » 06 May 2009, 01:12

how do you put two turrets on atm anyway?(python body)
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