possible solution for "wz does not start"

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Wiping the Windows Registry? Are we both talking about Warzone 2100 2.0.5???
Warzone really shouldn't use the Windows Registry at all...
It wouldn't be the first time, though, that WZ's bugs are related to some weirdness, but this is really strange...
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DevUrandom wrote: Wiping the Windows Registry? Are we both talking about Warzone 2100 2.0.5???
Warzone really shouldn't use the Windows Registry at all...
It wouldn't be the first time, though, that WZ's bugs are related to some weirdness, but this is really strange...
* I keep very close tabs on my registry - It's one of the basic criteria I use for judging the engineering of a new new sw I use (another criteria is mem-leaks).

* Anyway I keep an emmaculate registry - and I've tested this repeatedly over the last month - starting with a clean slate... upon running WZ, then running a deep reg analysis ...... WZ is responsible for quite a few serious (to not so serious) registry errors.

* It's a minor inconvenience at this point but there is no doubt I have to fix my reg every time after playing WZ. AND there is NO doubt WZ responsible.

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Re: possible solution for "wz does not start"

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WTF...
Seems like we need to find the portion of WZ _very_ fast, which is responsible for this.
I thought everything WIN32 related was wiped when the game was ported to Linux. Apparently this is not the case.
I am very curious where we will find the responsible code... (I can't remember _ever_ seeing any Windows Registry related code in WZ.)
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DevUrandom wrote: WTF...
I am very curious where we will find the responsible code... (I can't remember _ever_ seeing any Windows Registry related code in WZ.)
Do we have the design documents (architecture, model, diagram things, ...) for this project?
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you would have if people would have listened to me at the beginning  ( Prior to dec 2004 release of the source.) >:(
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If you are going to create them, we have them. Otherwise we don't...
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tuant20 wrote: Do we have the design documents (architecture, model, diagram things, ...) for this project?
DevUrandom wrote: If you are going to create them, we have them. Otherwise we don't...

ok - if he is asking about code related (programing design stuff - i dont understand that - which is why i was asking if and when you coders had a few spare seconds ---just some annotations even... i wasnt asking for 30000000 pages on each topic... ;D

now if he is asking about stuff that has already been implemented in the original documents project ... maybe i should ask what he is actually asking... before i start getting all ...  >:( :( :o ??? ::)  etc.... right?  ;D
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DevUrandom wrote: If you are going to create them, we have them. Otherwise we don't...
so we have got the source code only in the original documents?
if that so i think we should have someone build the architecture (in style of UML) from the scratch first. Maybe anyone in this project's developers who has the rapid reading-understanding skill  8)
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lav_coyote25 wrote: you would have if people would have listened to me at the beginning  ( Prior to dec 2004 release of the source.) >:(
i am newbie here and i don't understand what you mean
lav_coyote25 wrote:
ok - if he is asking about code related (programing design stuff - i dont understand that - which is why i was asking if and when you coders had a few spare seconds ---just some annotations even... i wasnt asking for 30000000 pages on each topic... ;D

now if he is asking about stuff that has already been implemented in the original documents project ... maybe i should ask what he is actually asking... before i start getting all ...  >:( :( :o ??? ::)  etc.... right?  ;D
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tuant20 wrote: so we have got the source code only in the original documents?
We got the source code in SVN...
tuant20 wrote: if that so i think we should have someone build the architecture (in style of UML) from the scratch first. Maybe anyone in this project's developers who has the rapid reading-understanding skill  8)
I prophesy that those diagrams will change a lot in the next months...
If you want to document the code in all it's detail (what would be needed to find the hidden Windows Registry related code), then this would also be a huge task with little to no benefit, since the diagrams would be so complicated that no one could understand them.
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DevUrandom wrote: If you want to document the code in all it's detail (what would be needed to find the hidden Windows Registry related code), then this would also be a huge task with little to no benefit, ...
I don't think so. At least we will be able to control the scope of this project and get the traceability.
DevUrandom wrote: ... since the diagrams would be so complicated that no one could understand them.
the diagrams would be so complicated that no one could understand them?  :-\
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DevUrandom wrote: [...]
If you want to document the code in all it's detail (what would be needed to find the hidden Windows Registry related code), [...]
THEN it would become a very complicated diagram.
So for this task I am not sure whether it is sensible.

In the future I think it would be interesting to have such a general overview, but I won't get into doing this before the codebase has not stabilized. This will take a few months, since we didn't even start working on it, yet.
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