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Re: maps by hao

Postby NoQ » 09 Nov 2010, 11:09

4c-Encounter

A 2x2 map, but it might be suitable for duels as well (#0 vs. #3 or #1 vs. #2).
14 oils per team, two of which are on an island. The beach is passable.
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Re: maps by hao

Postby Merowingg » 09 Nov 2010, 16:40

Hello Hao :)

I have a question :)

Were you thinking about a woman or the woman when you were making this map ?? :)

I am asking becuse when I look at it I see womans waist :) :) :) Sorry I am just a man :P ;)

It woud be a perfect waist if not those sharp things at the edges :)

And now seriously.. :)

On the right bottom edge you have used impassable cliff tiles, while on the top left edge there isnt any, was that on purpose ??

And did you use them to avoid players go by the edge ??.. what happened I remember on one of my maps..

The map is really good :) although.. I think you could create something magnificient if you woud go alittle beyond typical Warzone theme.. you almost got it with the previous map :)

It is only my point of view :) I try to make out of theme things as far as possible :)
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Re: maps by hao

Postby NoQ » 09 Nov 2010, 17:09

Were you thinking about a woman or the woman when you were making this map ?? :)
Ah ha ha lol, well, i think i didn't (: at least not consciously (:

On the right bottom edge you have used impassable cliff tiles, while on the top left edge there isnt any, was that on purpose ??
There seems to be some off-by-one problem in the map borders, so most of my symmetric maps have an extra redundant right column and bottom row of tiles as a workaround. I'm rather curious about what happens on the *left* edge: there are some strange yellow tiles i don't see in FlaME, but have in game (both old and new renderer).
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Re: maps by hao

Postby Merowingg » 09 Nov 2010, 17:22

Ah I see.. I knew it serves a purpose.. strange indeed.. and it seems it affected my map too..

It must be some sort of error.. did you report it yet ??
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Re: maps by hao

Postby Black Project » 09 Nov 2010, 23:14

Merowingg wrote:Ah I see.. I knew it serves a purpose.. strange indeed.. and it seems it affected my map too..

It must be some sort of error.. did you report it yet ??


Is this just me or did i noted that is the first time that you did not spammed dozens of smiles on your post? :lol2:

If so, that's a miracle! XD

Returning to the thread!


For now, hao, you're my favorite mapper, i like your creativity on making these interesting maps, they are really kick ass from what can i see in the screenshots as well the minimaps, despite that i did not played all your maps yet.

Keep up the great work :D

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Re: maps by hao

Postby Mats » 10 Nov 2010, 01:35

You're making some great maps. A lot of them are looking and playing very nice. I like the way in which you are somewhat emulating the classic Warzone maps that came with the game, rather than making blocky rubbish like many mappers. Your Seaport challenge is also rock hard and a very nice idea (no oil to start).

Keep it up!

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Re: maps by hao

Postby effigy » 10 Nov 2010, 21:06

hao, I found a small problem(?) in Outskirts, this oil resource needs hover to be captured, but I assume you meant for ground units to have access to it because the mouse cursor doesn't indicate a cliff. Am I wrong?
wz2100-20101110_112321-Outskirts-T1.png


Also, the water tiles look a little funny near the bridges, but I don't think anything can be done about that :(
This is why some features aren't implemented: http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=7490&view=unread#p87241
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Re: maps by hao

Postby NoQ » 11 Nov 2010, 18:29

Yeah, looks like a problem here. Well, the game behaves correctly: there's a cliff tile (even though it's only 50%) and a water tile (even though it's only 25%) adjoint here. Well, i don't mind a hover-only derrick here, but vertical water is certainly a flow flaw. But i won't get a chance to fix it today (or tomorrow), and i'm not sure if it's worth it. Maybe let's keep this as is (:
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Re: maps by hao

Postby effigy » 11 Nov 2010, 19:37

I don't think you can do much about the water, I should have been quiet about that. I think it's fine to need a hover to get the oil, but the appearance shouldn't be deceiving. Maybe you could remove the cliff tile on the shore line, or bring the shoreline closer to the cliff so it doesn't look like a wheeled truck could go there?

edit: other than this it's another great map :)
This is why some features aren't implemented: http://forums.wz2100.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=7490&view=unread#p87241
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Re: maps by hao

Postby NoQ » 12 Nov 2010, 13:18

I'll see what i can do. Maybe tomorrow. ok? (:

P.S. There are two kinds of problems with water. One is the not-very-successful attempt to show the underwater terrain that is used in the old terrain renderer; it usually looks rather strange, but is not a bug. The other problem is that you can actually make the water surface curved (you might have seen a deliberate use of this feature in my Temple).

And from the screenshot i get a feeling that we have the second case here, and this is a flaw that is fixable and thus is to be fixed.

upd: Done! 2c-Outskirts updated, with a few water bugs fixed (:
effigy, where were you when i made 4 betas??
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Re: maps by hao

Postby NoQ » 13 Nov 2010, 07:05

BTW, i've uploaded beta2 of Encounter as well (:
I don't want to finalize it until these problems are somehow resolved.
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Re: maps by hao

Postby NoQ » 13 Nov 2010, 11:56

2c-Helmet

Another bilaterally symmetric duel map. Controlling the highground might be very important here. 15 oils per player (1 of them on an island, 1 on a mountain).

2c-Helmet2

Same as 2c-Helmet, but with highground sealed. This simplifies the game and leaves you with only two chokepoints on the south (and also a few lakes for hovers).

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Re: maps by hao

Postby NoQ » 15 Nov 2010, 06:34

Yay! ASCII art! :lol2:
(a very first outcome of this topic)
In case you didn't understand what it is: it's a heightmap of Visionary Mountains, painted with letters from "a" to "z" (:

P.S. I'm finalizing Encounter :3
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Re: maps by hao

Postby NoQ » 19 Nov 2010, 07:18

Hmm, 5 messages in a row by me ... I hate being annoying (:
But i can't stop myself anyway XD

Well, i've finally found myself making a more-or-less balanced 3-player map.
This is a very early and green release of it, and the code name is

3c-Monocot
THIS MAP IS ONLY COMPATIBLE WITH Warzone2100-3.0beta* or later!!!

(see also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monocot)
(I wonder if anybody likes the name or has a better one)

I'm also trying to re-invent map making with the new terrain renderer, so you'll see a lot of rather exotic texturing here, like three types of cliff textures mixed up, new transitions like yellow-to-cliff or concrete-to-green, brown and yellow roads (they're actually roads, units will move faster on them!), ...

I didn't place any advanced bases or features yet. Still, i'll appreciate any feedback on balance and playability. The map is rather large and is a little similar to this one.

Known bugs:
    - The water doesn't look well enough because of this issue.

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Re: maps by hao

Postby macuser » 19 Nov 2010, 14:18

Hmm nice map ;) . I'll be testing it ;)
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